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Old 17-Oct-2004   #1
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Root of the problem !

I post here two pictures of the base of a really nice hollow trunk hawthorn I purchased last year. It is still in the original mica pot and I intend to repot into something nice this Spring, while at the same time cleaning up the deadwood.

However, as with most trees, it has several flaws, the biggest of which is the "flying" root acting as a drain channel to the inner core. Given this is on the "front" on the basis of the tree comes forward over this area - I think I have a plan . .

To cut this off in the next few weeks, since the roots are no longer supplying much energy to the to the tree (leaves are falling) while it then means the roots attached will then die back over winter, and can be removed during the re-pot or left to decay - depending on how tangled the mass is on closer inspection at the time.

I then intend to make the front the other side which is shown in the second view, with the "flying root" indicated by the arrow. There seems to be plenty of other roots to support the tree. Next year I will then develop the top to re-instate the front to match the better view.

Is this a good option do you think ?
Is a part of the tree likely to die-back as a result of removing quite a substantial root?

Has anyone experience of this operation ?

Appreciate any help.
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First, I think your tree won't have any functional problem if you remove this root.

Second, the text seems to suggest that the first view is the front of the tree? I can't see the entire tree, but the rootage really looks MUCH better in the second view.

I would want to see a photo taken from a more normal vantage point before suggesting that you remove that root, perhaps showing the entire tree from the front and back. The current photo appears to look down on the trunkbase, and might disguise the relative elevation of the roots. In the second view, it appears to complement and extend the rootbase.

Finally, it's probably best to do this kind of work on a deciduous tree with the plant nearly in a bareroot state if you have never seen the actual roots before. You might have anything under the surface, including a second level root system. Sometimes a root that looks like it might not be important actually is, or vice-versa. So I would wait for repotting to make a selection.

Still curious about the "real" front,

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Here is a general view of the tree. The trunk is approx 4 inches wide at the base.
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Matt,

Thanks, that was quick!

I was just re-sizing a general photo for the second post and you replied !

Pitch black here now, so I will get some better shots in the week and post.

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I'm afraid we are still too high. This is not the angle you would appreciate a tree at a bonsai show. Take a step back and get a bit lower.

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Matt,

Yes I know, it was the only one I had on p.c.

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I will never forget the club member who was warned to wait about cutting off the ugly surface root. Of course she didn't and the entire rootball fell off, leaving her with a largish cutting! Matt of course is correct in encouraging prudence. Examine the entire rootball carefully before removing such a large root. It it has a great deal of feeder roots, it's best to wean the tree off of it.

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