Rescued Tiny Tree, looking for positive ID

13-Jun-2005	#1
stray77 bonsaiTALK Journeyman Join Date: May-2005 Location: McGregor Country: Canada USDA Zone: 6b AHS Heat Zone: 6 Posts: 36	Rescued Tiny Tree, looking for positive ID This little baby was destined for the weed whacker having grown up through the roots right next to the trunk of an unrelated species. (oak actually) It was too cute not to rescue but I'm not sure what it is. Do you know? Last edited by stray77 : 13-Jun-2005 at 06:08 PM.

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13-Jun-2005	#2
RedPine bonsaiTALK ArchMaster Join Date: Jul-2004 Location: AR USDA Zone: 7a AHS Heat Zone: 7 Posts: 2,897	Hi, Its' a juniper,looks like the Virginas type. __________________ http://gongshi.freeforums.org/index.php

13-Jun-2005	#3
BonsaiMon bonsaiTALK Master Craftsman Join Date: Sep-2002 Location: Va Beach Country: USA USDA Zone: 8 AHS Heat Zone: 6,7 Posts: 677	Yep.. eastern red cedar .. juniperus virginiana fun juniper to play with.. vigorous grower with upright growth. more details peace, tom stoute __________________ peace, tom stoute http://bonsaiinsights.spaces.live.com/

13-Jun-2005	#4
Will_Heath BANNED Join Date: Apr-2004 Location: Clinton Township, MI Country: USA USDA Zone: 6 MI AHS Heat Zone: 4 Posts: 4,227	Tom, hit the ID right on the head. I have a few of these destined for a forest. The bark is beautiful and polishes nicely, the needles are sharp and poke you whenever they get a chance. Look for "knobs" on the branches which are fungal growth that is common on these that will also affect your malus. Just pull these "balls" off, if not you'll get a mess of orange fungus all over the tree next spring. Don't panic in winter when it turns brown, they do that every winter, not attractive at all but they will green up again in spring. Branches wire easily and the growth is quick, good luck, Will

13-Jun-2005	#5
heymikey(deceased) bonsaiTALK Master Join Date: Oct-2002 Location: East bay, Ca. Country: USA USDA Zone: 9 AHS Heat Zone: 7 Posts: 400	I think it's a Douglas Spruce Pine (or maybe it could be a forsythia?)

13-Jun-2005

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I think it's a Douglas Spruce Pine (or maybe it could be a forsythia?)

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13-Jun-2005

stray77

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nice guys,
It was the awl shaped needles that were throwing me. Apparently this Juniperus Virginiana has both juvenile awl shaped needles and when mature has scale like foliage.

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14-Jun-2005	#8
jeremy_norbury bonsaiTALK Master Chief Join Date: Sep-2003 Location: Amstelveen Country: Netherlands USDA Zone: 8 AHS Heat Zone: 2-3 Posts: 1,607	Most Juniper sorts have this attribute... __________________ All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy. Spike Milligan I told you I was ill. Spike Milligan's Gravestone

15-Jun-2005	#9
ozzerbon bonsaiTALK Master Chief Join Date: Dec-2002 Location: Amsterdam Country: Netherlands USDA Zone: 8-9 AHS Heat Zone: ? Posts: 1,259	Well I think that it is either a Juniperus communis or just maybe a Juniperus rigida, judging by those sharp pointed needles. Nigel __________________ http://pictures.bonsaitalk.com/user/ozzerbon http://www.flickr.com/photos/ozzerbon/

15-Jun-2005	#10
rockm bonsaiTALK ArchMaster Join Date: Oct-2003 Location: Fairfax, Va Country: USA USDA Zone: 7 AHS Heat Zone: ? Posts: 4,561	Although Stray doesn't give his location, I would bet it's somewhere in N. America. This is most probably Eastern Red Cedar (juniperus virginiana) which is a juniper not a cedar. It's a "weed" tree that will sprout anywhere. It is a very fast grower and an opportunistic one. They can make good bonsai, but mostly only in the hands of someone who's had years of experience and originating from older larger stock chopped down to bonsai size. As saplings, they are almost always lanky and loose and pretty mediocre bonsai material. Vance Hanna has an excellent one that he's developed over decades. Since the Red Cedar does indeed produce "mature" awl-like foliage and the spikey "juvenile" foliage, it can be difficult to keep. Too much pruning, fertilizer, water, etc and the plant reverts to the spikey growth. It's a pain.

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