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24-Jul-2004
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bonsaiTALK Journeyman
 
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Red Maples
Does anyone know what yould happen if I try to grow maples in the tropic? I recently bought a lot of seeds over the internet and I was wondering if the maples will turn red or will remain green, the trees won't die because I have them in a cold zone but still, does anyone know the outcome of this?
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26-Jul-2004
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bonsaiTALK Master Craftsman
 
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Growing termperate climate maples in the tropics..
hmmmm.. If you followed the link Aurelius provided I hope you figured it out. For FALL color you need temperature change.. ie. frost or freeze. The species needs this cold time for domancy, also. Without this dormant cycle the tree will eventually give up the ghost. I lived and grew bonsai in S. Fl. and many collectors attempted this feat with many unconventional techniques. Putting the tree in the refrigerator for a month or so..  ..They eventually sold the tree to someone up north or it died. Sometimes it took 3+ yrs. but no longer.. Bottom line is know all the requirements of your trees and when you can provide then it's one to use. Sorry, .. but I tink you may want to gift those seeds to someone who has the right environment.
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26-Jul-2004
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bonsaiTALK Journeyman
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thanks for the answers, I will have to decide what to do then, it's a shame because I have 30 different exotic tropical trees and they are a beauty, but when it comes to maples or red trees of china or Japan that's something you will never see here in Costa Rica... Any japanese or species that are suitable for this weather?
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26-Jul-2004
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bonsaiTALK Journeyman
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Are junipers and pines suitable for tropical weather
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26-Jul-2004
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bonsaiTALK Master Craftsman
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Japanese species none come to mind.
Junipers are so so.. Japanese black pine ... no.. There are sub tropical pines .. needles aren't as small and don't reduce easily, but can be worked as bonsai. There are so many tropical species that make great bonsai that I stayed away from anyting that was a chore to keep alive. I know what you are saying though.. when I moved north my tropicals were dying left and right but the good news was in their place more temperate trees could now be worked on.. One of my first gifts was a sickly laceleaf Japanese maple which is now doing well.. While in Fl. I had to stop myself many time from buying that cute lil Blk pine and the beautiful Japanese maples.. Favorites were the ficus varieties and tamarind.. buttonwood.. bald cypress. The Ilex vomitoria shillings did well in S. Fl. and now there is a new variety available, 'nana Bordeaux'. Its new growth is reddish purple.
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26-Jul-2004
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bonsaiTALK Journeyman
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Do you have a pucture of the 'nana Bordeaux'
Also, my favorite one will be Ficus of all kind (Retusa, Rugosa, Benjamina, Costaricana, etc) which are very common here in Costa Rica, also jabuticabas and cypresses of all kinds are a beauty here but I was looking for an edge, and there are more than 500 species of trees here but NONE like Japanese Maples or Red tress of any kind, any suggestions?? |
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26-Jul-2004
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bonsaiTALK Master Craftsman
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.. can get a pic of the ilex(youpon holly) a lil later.
When I was in Fl. I was growing what sold on the retail/wholesale market mainly here in the states. I haven't a clue what would come close to the Japanese maple in the tropics. Hopefully, someone from the tropics will chime in..
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27-Jul-2004
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bonsaiTALK Expert
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The reason I gave that link was because it was about the range (all the way to Florida) in which a Red maple will grow.
Red as in Acer rubrum .That is an american/Canadain Red. That's not entirely what we are talking about here. Sometimes I forget what forum I'm on. Your probably wanting to consider the Japanese Reds Acer Palmatum instead. The reason I mentioned Florida was because along with the warmer climate they also have more natural light. Which is part of the equation in getting the red color. Having said all that, as already mentioned, you may very well need quite a controlled environment to pull it off. Much like trying to grow tropicals in Canada. It can be done if you are really prepared to put forth the effort and expense. You might want to poke around a bit. After reading this "common name for the genus Acer of the Aceraceae, a family of deciduous trees and shrubs of the Northern Hemisphere, found mainly in temperate regions and on tropical mountain slopes. " It makes me wonder if there aren't some species or cultivars that may just be better suited for the tropics. Maybe a place to start looking?? |
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