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bonsaitalk ninja
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pyrethrin insecticide question
hello everyone. yesterday i purchased a bottle of Schultz insect spray to get rid of a insect problem that i have had in some of my trees soil. many of them have been having larva infestations by fruit flies but i am not sure exactly what type of fly.
i have purchased this type because it is safer than other chemical insecticides and may be more powerfull than neem oil which i already tried before without success. pyrethrin......... .02% piperonyl......... .20% other ingredients.....99.78% will it hurt the tree if i spray the surface of the soil and is this a good insectide? have you used it and how did it work for you? |
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
Join Date: Mar-2006
Location: West Springfield Massachusetts
Country: USA
USDA Zone: zone 5
Posts: 1,198
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Bugs
You didn't give much info, ie type of trees, discription of pests etc., but I have seen similar from the brief discription, and my understanding is they are there because something is staying wet. This could be an issue for bonsai.
Check the labeling well, it tells you some plants you should NOT use it on, otherwise its a decent product. I have used it in the past with success. |
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bonsaiTALK Master
Join Date: Mar-2004
Location: Melbourne
Country: Australia
Posts: 416
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fair question by mcspeedo.
pyrethrin works a treat for me, i even add a little wetting agent/detergent to help it stick to the little mongrels. i recently wiped out a nasty infestation of lace bug on the azaleas and aphids on the camellia. the smoke is still clearing, hehehehe hahahaha im not sure about pouring it onto the soil but it shouldn't have any adverse effects but then i am no scientist. i know there are other treatments for application onto the soil, just haven't needed to use them and therefore don't know them ![]()
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Bonsai Master, in my mind
Join Date: Feb-2005
Location: Back Home in Northern California
Country: USA
Posts: 1,635
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G'day All...
Always remember, and don’t ever forget, that indiscriminate use of insecticides is a very very bad thing. Any time that you use an insecticide, you are likely to nail some beneficial insects and predator insects in addition any harmful critters you might get. So, what to do, you ask… Well, you should conclusively identify the critter you are after…whatever it takes, identify the culprit. Then, and only then, treat your plants, soil, etc., for that specific pest. If necessary, take samples of the pest, damaged plant, infested soil, etc., to a qualified local nurseryman, and or your local Agriculture Extension Agent (or whatever your government agency happens to be) to get help identifying your pest. Once you have accomplished identification, you should start with the least toxic treatment (spray with clear water, whatever) recommended for your particular problem. If the “least toxic” doesn’t work, move on to the next “least toxic”, etc. And, always read the label! Not only read it, but follow the directions! What about preventative treatment…you ask. “Preventative” treatment is not my bag. For me, there’s no joy in killing insects. The bug executioner does not live here. I have found that when I keep my bonsai area clean, clear of trimmings, etc., and provide good care, I have no need of insecticides. In fact, about 3 months back, I discarded 6 or so, insecticides/fungicides that had not been used in 5-10 years. Also, you must keep your landscaping pest free. Keep in mind that insecticides should never be used in any way that is not specified on the label. If you are not following label directions…here in the USA anyway…you are breaking the law. Also, there may very well be a health risk if you disregard the label instructions. Finally, what I have suggested (that’s suggested as in “suggested”) above, is what has worked for me, here in Southern Arizona for 10 years, and in Northern California before that. I know that I’m being redundant, but it works for me. Pat
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BONSAI isn't about surviving in a storm, rather, how to dance in the rain. THE ONLY WAY: Always remember, and don't ever forget, that whatever you read here is not cast in concrete... the intent of any advice is to help. In no way should you feel that I’m saying that my way is the only way…heaven forbid! I've seen far too much of the "my way or the highway" attitude in bonsai as well as in other areas of life. Pat Patterson...Bonsai in the Greater Bay Area, Northern California
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