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Old 15-Jun-2005   #1
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Pruning Chaenomeles Sinensis for flowers

Hi -

So I have acquired a quince pre-bonsai and was looking for some experience advice on pruning it during the growing season for flowers next year. I have read to let the new growth grow until the fall(!), then prune it back to a couple of leaves. If so, the tree is going to look pretty un-tree like by September...

Sound right?

One more question - why, in New England, does it have to be 95 degrees for 2 weeks, then 50 degrees for two weeks? My trees are quite confused...

Thanks!
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Old 16-Jun-2005   #2
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No Quinces or Opinions??

Hi -

I can't believe that nobody on this forum has a quince bonsai or an opinion. C'mon aren't opinions like....what's the rest of that saying?

Any input would be appreciated.
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Tom, I took my little quince to a meeting a couple nights ago. The advice that I got, from an experienced nurseryman, is to prune in dormancy, and then to pinch new growth until August at the latest. The tree doesn't like to be pruned too much when active. The flowers seem to develop on older wood (please someone correct me if I'm wrong) so even with a decent pruning you should still get some flowers. But prune with an eye to the future of the tree FIRST, then later when you have the structure you want you can worry about flowers.

Sort of like working toward good taper/nebari before worrying about branches.

Love those quinces! I have four now, one is contorted. Even the little roots are contorted.

Good luck!
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OH, here's an excellent article too:

www.evergreengardenworks.com/quince.htm

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heytermite; Flowering quince is generally considered to be Chaenomeles Japonica most of which have red flowers and smallish fruit. There are many varieties.

Chinese quince used to be called Cydonia Sinensis (a separate specie) or Cydonia Oblonga. I believe Cydonia has been reclassified to Pseudocydonia. This species is known for having white or pinkish flowers and large fruit. Again there are several varieties.

As far as I know both flower on "last years" growth.
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Flowering quince is generally considered to be Chaenomeles Japonica most of which have red flowers and smallish fruit. There are many varieties.

Chinese quince used to be called Cydonia Sinensis (a separate specie) or Cydonia Oblonga. I believe Cydonia has been reclassified to Pseudocydonia. This species is known for having white or pinkish flowers and large fruit. Again there are several varieties.

As far as I know both flower on "last years" growth.


heymikey - pretty sure I am dealing with Chinese "Quince" here, or as you point out, Pseudocydonia sinensis. Pic attached.
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Yep, that's Pseudocydonia sinensis, Chinese quince. Pruning for flowers and fruit is still pretty much the same for flowering and fruiting quinces. You will get the most flowers on wood that grew the previous season, so most people prune heavily just after flowering time so they can enjoy the flowers indoors as cut stems or on the plant without upsetting next years flowering wood. They also bloom on older wood. As bonsai, of course you are going to be getting most of your flowers on older wood since you can't let the canopy keep moving out. This requires some judicious planning for branches. It is even worse for Punica granatum, Pomegranate, which only flowers on the tips of NEW wood.

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