Pinus Nigra And Black Pine

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hi again =)

i'm a confused..... I need to know if Pinus Nigra is the same that black pine.

Is Black Pine the generic name of the Pinus Nigra ??

TNKS a lot.


Ernesto

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Walter_Pall

"Is Black Pine the generic name of the Pinus Nigra ??"

Ernesto,

Pinus nigra means black pine. But it is not the black pine that most bonsai enthusiasts are referring to. They are talking about Pinus thunbergiana, the Japanese Black PIne.
To make it more complicated you will read about Pinus nigra Austriaca, which means Austrian Black Pine.
I am Austrian, I can assure you that it is a rare tree in Austria. The overwhelming majority of pines in Austria are Mugo pines (Pinus mugfo) and Scots pines (Pinus sylvetris).
The name 'Austriaca' comes form the old Austro-Hungarian Empire which has comprised most of the Mediterranian areas from France to Italy, to Ex-Jugoslavia. This is where the black pines still grow, but it is not Austria anymmore.
The'Scots' pine does live in Scotland, but probably less than .1 percent of all Scots pines live there. It is not even named after Scotland but after a gentleman named 'Scot'.

In Europe you will find the term 'black pine' in all available languages. But it would mean all sorts of pines.
This is why we use the Latin names to be sure what we are talking about.

Picture showing PInus nigra Austriaca in development in my garden.

best regards
Walter Pall

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splinter

Walter,
Thanks for the history lesson! It's amazing how many different pines there are. I'm still learning how to distiguish one from another. Your statement about the Scots pine is interesting. I'm not surprised that there are more of them elsewhere, than in Scotland. We have a large number of them where I live, and in fact I sometimes see them advertised at local nurseries as "Scotch" pines. Using the Latin names definitely helps to identify the various pines.

Marsha