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Old 3-May-2008   #11
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naturesart, i have not tried myself but seen alot of juniper tanukis. The woods used in some of them were not even juniper stock. In the begining, you have to fix it to the wood.
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Old 3-May-2008   #12
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Naturesart, It is the belief by many that Juniper ( the living section) is a poor candidate for Tanuki because the callous recedes as the juniper heals. Originally Tanuki were created by binding the two sections, not fastening them. Raffia,taffeta, even grafting tape were used to bind these two pieces. On most species the callous would grow , squeezing between the wrapping and deadwood. The callous binding itself to the wood as it went (imagine that no glue or screws a union by nature alone) So with the junipers trait of having its callous recede, it was deemed an unsuitable candidate.

Recently people have decide to just go ahead and screw or glue there living scion to its dead counterpart. Trying to make the juniper issue a non issue. I have seen quite a few of these and if you look closely very few pull it off successfully. Always being a gap between deadwood and deadwood on the scion where the living tissue has pulled back.

So the issue isn't really Juniper on Juniper. I believe what they were trying to say or mis-communicating was using Juniper as a scion.
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What are the better tree's to try this with tom?
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Pine, Hinoki, most any deciduous
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interesting.... Thank you tom

Abe, if you dont think its possible to use as deadwood, clean it up and give it a nice finish. I forget what they are called, but interesting polished wood make great accent.
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okay, i'm discouting the discouraging comments and plowing full steam ahead.
*points to pics*

As you should know pictures don't convey the awesomeness something can be in real life. You have to hold it in your hand to judge it properly.

Some notes:
- since the wood is euc, I'll probably try and go for getting eucs growing on it.
- I have no "tree carving" experience
- the stick is a little over 30cm high and about 8cm in diameter at the widest.
- yes it had some rot, and I'm cleaning that out now.

The pics are mainly of the carving at the top I did today.
Uhm... #58471 and #58472 are my thoughts for the future of this thing. I'm thinking of carving a large amount off at the base and have it as a 2nd trunk of a tree which has died sometime in it's past.

comments so far?
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Thumbs up intensive care

The bonsai bug has bored a hole into your flesh and layed eggs. The first symptoms are a departure from normal functions and reality. This condition is not a disorder but should me watched closely. Trying to make bonsai out of inanimate objects is the first sign the eggs have hatched. This thirst and craving will only intensify. Please keep in touch so we can tackle this together. I am sure in this tree there is a piece of wood just like yours.

ps. your wood is beautiful...keep up the good work!
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Aberael,

If you are able to source a book by Dan Barton called "The Bonsai Book" he has a step by step guide on creating (in his words) a driftwood style.

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tachigi, thank you for explaning, I believe you are right on thats what he said he just didn't explain it in detail.
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I'll be going to QLD in 5 days for 2 weeks, so this'll be on hold till I get back from that. But before I go I'll be having a look at some native nursaries to see if I can't find some larger red gum, mana gum or ghost gum stock that might fit that spot I mentioned.

Kong: thanks for the comments. That's a nice carving in that pic you posted. Oh, and the bonsai bug laid eggs in my brain ages ago. all I have left are bonsai larvae twitching and writing in my skull cavity.

Peterh: I'll look into that book. Might even see if I can get it over the net somehow.
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