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One Leaf Or One Bud=millions Of Plants?

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Old 25-Apr-2004   #21
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Ravenna,

I'm with you on this one.

In the absence of any hard details or scientific publication, there's no reason to believe this is anything beyond marketing.

But I'll give the author the benefit of the doubt as follows. I'd love to have access to some of the rare maple cultivars on their own rootstock, particularly for some of the recently discovered cultivars, such as Acer Shirasawanum "Red Dawn" or Acer Shirasawanum "Autumn Moon".

If the technique is all that it is cut out to be, it should be possible to produce these on their own root stock, quickly and efficiently and cost-effectively. If they become available through this source and some sort of assurance can be provided that the material will arrive intact and alive, I'll be delighted to buy.

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Old 25-Apr-2004   #22
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Hey Ravenna,

I'll have my degree in Biochemistry in a couple weeks. I've worked on research projects mostly in oncology (cancer) dealing with sequencing DNA in mutated mouse cells. I'll be upfront; you'll have a harder time finding my name than Mr. Li Changxiao. I'm currently looking for work in a lab right now, and planning to start working on advanced degrees in a year or two.

We might disagree a little about how to define some terms, but I'm as skeptical about all this everyone else (BTW I love your prunus mume!!). I'm just intrigued that he wrote back, so I wanted to give the chance for a clear-up, giving the benefit of the doubt. I was thinking that there was still the chance that it was just a language barrier problem. I didn't think that anyone here was about to make the investment yet anyway.

But doing some more research, I'm just getting more skeptical

Oh well, I've said way more than my share on this thread so I'll leave it up to the individual members.

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Old 25-Apr-2004   #23
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Oh well, I've said way more than my share on this thread so I'll leave it up to the individual members.

Later,

~Justin


Good point... but I guess it applies more to me than you...

Glad you like my prunus... seems to be thriving after being repotted...
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Old 25-Apr-2004   #24
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I could tell you,It's no wonder that you cann't find any article about this technqiue. We want to proceed with industrialization
through this technqiue! If you can read the artice about SPAMMING,
and you will konw the technique in details,so you know the results!
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Old 25-Apr-2004   #25
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In their efforts to be fair to cloneseedling, people seem to be overlooking the fact that this whole thread began with an outright lie.

The poster initially wrote that he or she had stumbled across a website about this technique:

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Several days ago, occasionally, I found one website .


Then in cloneseedling's subsequent reply, the truth comes out: the poster is associated with the business:

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The Successfully Propagated Plants Through Our Technique


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We want to proceed with industrialization through this technqiue!


This "hey look at the cool site I found" marketing is not a good sign at all.This is the sort behavior I expect to see associated with low-rent porn sites, not major scientific breakthroughs. It certainly shifts the burden of proof further than ever to cloneseedling.

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Old 26-Apr-2004   #26
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I agree with Carl. I picked up on that foul-up as well; I was suspicious from the start when he appeared with the screenname "cloneseedling." Bonsais have their borers, their pests, and their diseases; Apparently, so do bonsai forums. Let's just let it die, shall we? Please?
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Old 11-Jun-2004   #27
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The Strange Method Of Cloning Plant!

Several days ago, occasionally, I found one website .It introduces a miraculous technique of propagating plants in lower cost and higher efficiency than tissue culture and conventional ways.
Ten millions of plants can be propagated in lower cost and higher efficiency than tissue culture an conventional ways through this kind of technique in half one year.
More than 380 varieties have been successfully propagated up to now!
Facts speak louder than words, you can go to propagation!
propagation!
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Apparently, the revolutionary technique was successfully used to clone this same message on every gardening forum!
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good one Matt. that's priceless.
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