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3-Jun-2004
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
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Okay New Englanders, What Is It?
attached is a drawing (a rough one) of a.....well, i don't know, all i know is that here in new england there are a lot of them and as a kid we used to throw them up in the air and watch them spin down like a helicopter. they vary in size, but the ones i am dealing with are small, about an inch in length. my point is, there are 4-5 that have fallen into pots with my seedlings and have actually taken. my problem is that i don't know what species/variety of tree they come from, can anyone help?
chris
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3-Jun-2004
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bonsaiTALK Master
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No one can help you as these are maple keys. So you have some sort of maple. Look around near your place for a maple leaf and stem. Then the identity of the mystery maple should be possible.
Jerry Jerry Meislik Whitefish Montana USA Zone 4-5 http://www.bonsaihunk.8m.com/
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3-Jun-2004
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
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thanks jerry, i'll take a look, but it seems that i now have a few more potensai seeding coming up of the mystery maple type. thanks again
chris
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6-Jun-2004
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bonsaiTALK stick figure.
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If its green leaved its either Sugar or Silver maple; if its red it is either red or norway (I think) maple. I've asked around here, the general consensus is they grow quick and coarse, and don't leaf-reduce well. No reason to not play with them
 I found a good link about our maples, and syrup production (?).north east maples jim |
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6-Jun-2004
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
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thanks jimmy, they have green leaves, it came from the big tree in my back yard (found that out when i looked, go figure) they are sprouting at a good rate, all together i have about 6-7 that have taken and another 2-3 that have fallen in, so we'll see what happens with them.
chris
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6-Jun-2004
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bonsaiTALK Neophyte
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I am from MA and we used to call them whirli-gigs, hehee. The proper term for them is samara. They will need to go through a winter before they are usable if you want to try to plant some. I have hundreds of Silver maple seedlings in my yard this spring. I took 7 of them when they got their first set of leaves, just before the evil mulch-men came for the yard upkeep... one has survived and lives happily outside in a window box.
If you are interested in trying one for bonsai, check this out... http://www.evergreengardenworks.com/redmaple.htmhttp://www.evergreengardenworks.com/redmaple.htm Last edited by donovan : 6-Jun-2004 at 07:31 PM. |
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6-Jun-2004
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bonsaiTALK Artisan
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when they germinate depends on the type of tree it is. I have a red of some type and a japanese maple in my yard that drop seeds in early spring and germinate in 3 days.
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7-Jun-2004
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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
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I have one of those trees in my front yard and I didn’t know what it was. I originally thought it was a Liquidamber because that’s what is next to it. Dad corrected me on that one. There’s another growing on the side of the front yard its slightly different though. I didn’t figure it for a kind of maple. Seeds are dropping now ill make sure I collect some. I already have some of the Liquidamber seedlings growing, around three – four. Collected them out of the garden bed in January.
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8-Jun-2004
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
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nick, i had kept a good eye on those seed boxes for weeks, there was a lapse of about 4-5 days of rainy weather that i did not check them, which is when i suspect the seeds dropped in. so, from that i suspect that they propagate quick because it was at the end of that short period that i noticed the sprouts coming up next to 12 jap. black pines (which i am also very happy about). i don't yet know if they will turn out well as bonsai, but i now have 5 free ways to test and find out. good luck with yours.
chris
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8-Jun-2004
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bonsaiTALK Neophyte
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Hi washout03- from http://experts.about.com/q/739/3262581.htm "Acer palmatum seed is notorious for germinating sporadically. Germination of Japanese maple seeds (Acer palmatum) is not difficult, but it can be a bit tricky if your wife or husband doesn't let you take over part of the refrigerator! First of all we soak the seeds in lukewarm (not hot!) water for 48 hours. This softens the seed coat a little. Next we mix the seed with a little damp (not too wet) sphagnum moss or peat and put it in a plastic zipper bag. Leave the seeds in this humid atmosphere for 4-6 weeks at room temperature. Now comes the tough part - leave the zipper bag in the refrigerator for 60 to 90 days. This is to mimic the natural action of seeds going through a winter season. Technically it is called 'stratification'. After the 90 days sow in trays or pots filled with a good seed compost. If you have a seed propagator use it or find a warm place to maintain a steady temperature of 65-70F (18-20C)" I believe the ones you see germinating are last years drop. Every source I found states closely what I have quoted above, so I doubt the seeds are able to germinate in the same season they drop. For further on why it is not likely they are this year's, see the following link...http://www.campusprogram.com/refere...n__botany_.html I would be interested to see another source that has found a way around stratification. -Donovan  |
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