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Old 14-May-2008   #1
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Sawing Newbie's Pine. Any ideas are welcome

Hi all!

Firstly, I'm sorry for my poor English. So I'll try to explain.

I need some help with my pine. I think it's Pinus Mugo, isn't it? I've got it about two years ago and do nothing with it. The pine lives on my balcony. There are many old needles, but I think it's healthy good enough.

So I want to make some shape and I need your suggestions. I don't like its double trunk. May be I need to cut one main branch or I can split the root on two parts?

And I don't know nothing about possible style of my tree.

What can I do right now?


Front view:



Rear view:
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/...nus3_140508.jpg



Right side:
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/...nus2_140508.jpg



Close-up of the trunk:
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/...nus4_140508.jpg

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Old 14-May-2008   #2
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Hi, I will presume you do keep the pot outside - it won't live inside for very long at all. What you need to do is Google Vance Wood - he's the top Mugo expert, and you will find lots of information (especially that it's best to wait until early July, really, to work on Mugos). You can also go to www.evergreengardenworks.com for more general information on growing and training pines. You certainly have some potential with your tree - have you dug a little bit to see where or how the two trunks are joined?
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Thanks Cathie

This pine survived in two cold winters on my balcony, and there is a lot of fresh air now. I hope there is no problem with its place. Look at the needles of 2008.



Is it definitely Mugo pine? The height is about 2 feets.

Unfortunately I don't know much about its root, because I repotted it 2 years ago. I see simple V-shape, both of trunks begins at the same point.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/...nus5_140508.jpg
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Scrooge,
Your mugo has many possibilities due to the many branches, almost too many. The one problem I see is the long internodes (distance from one sub-branch to the next). It looks to be in good health so that it should be possible to get new buds to grow closer to the trunk.
Do search on Mugos and Vance Wood for discussions on how to care and work on mugos.
Here is one link that will be helpful: http://www.karamotto.org/
Read the two needle pine care article and pull out the information on mugos.

If you can, get to a workshop for help with styling. There are several in eastern Europe by very good bonsai artists.

Your English and photos are very good so please keep us posted with this tree's progress.

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Old 14-May-2008   #5
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I would probably find the lowest and healthiest branch on two main trunks and severely cut the tree back to right above them. This will encourage the trunk to thicken and fresh, new, inner growth will sprout which will make the tree older and far more interesting. I have done this with paper birch, red maple, crab apple, oak, and other trees all successfully. It is still pretty safe to do this now, considering that it is still spring, but don't wait much longer. Good luck!
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Old 14-May-2008   #6
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Walt

Thanks for useful link. I completely agree with you that the trunks are very long and straight as a line. I'm afraid I can't bend them at all. And I see no buds there.


kedori

Thank you for your opinion. I understood. But there're no large branches on the lowest part of the tree...
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/...cut0_140508.jpg



Ok. If I would try to cut the thick trunk and left lowest and biggest branch on small trunk, and then would cut another small branches.
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/...cut1_140508.jpg




My pine will lost about 3/4 of its height. That's so awful! http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/...cut2_140508.jpg





P.S. I'm sorry for my bad. If it is possible move this thread it into the Show & Tell forum.
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im not convinced its mugo looks scotts pine to me see what vance wood has to say.
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im not convinced its mugo looks scotts pine to me see what vance wood has to say.
Do you mean some red color of the trunk?
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its quite clearly a mugo imo
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its quite clearly a mugo imo



I'm not too sure, I have 2 Mugo's and that one is a little "leggy" and the bark looks too smooth. I may be wrong but I would make sure to know what it is before pruning, Mugo's don't do well at all to massive pruning, definitely no more than 50%.
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