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Old 19-Feb-2006   #11
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Hi Toni,
I am happy to agree with all of what Marija wrote in respect of your website and the trees that are growing in her area.

Here in Israel we have almost the same trees and of course my favorite trees are the Olive and the Lentisk Pistache.

We have here very old Olives and ever green Oaks, some of the Olives are at least a thousand years old.

I understand that the Pistache become very popular in Europe, I have a friend that export to Europe thousands of pre bonsai Pistache trees.
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Old 19-Feb-2006   #12
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We use few more species for bonsai proposes in our area:

Ficus carica (fig tree)

Phillyrea latifolia

And

Rosmarinus officinalis (rosemary)



Do you have this species in your area as well?



About the olive tree, I think we are talking about different varieties; the one that we use is the var. Sylvestris, with smaller leaves than the normal type.
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Old 21-Feb-2006   #13
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I have look into Flora croatica database
http://hirc.botanic.hr/fcd/DetaljiF...x?IdVrste=12817

and find that O.E. sativa and O.E. var. sylvestris are synonims.
We are talking about same plants!

Trere are also other names for the same plant:
Olea europaea L. var. oleaster (Hoffm. et Link) Fiori
Olea oleaster Hoffmanns. et Link
Olea sylvestris Mill.
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Old 21-Feb-2006   #14
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Nice mediterranean post...

Hy all.

Althought Olea europea sylvestris and Olea europea sativa or Olea europea europea are the same species there are very impotant differences is the different varities in different mediterranean countries. In balearic islands the wild Olea europea (Olea europea sylvestris) have very little leaves, it is not important for botanical but it is for bonsai.

Enhorabuena por la nueva página.

Best wishes from East Spain.
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Old 21-Feb-2006   #15
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Althought Olea europea sylvestris and Olea europea sativa or Olea europea europea are the same species there are very impotant differences is the different varities in different mediterranean countries. In balearic islands the wild Olea europea (Olea europea sylvestris) have very little leaves, it is not important for botanical but it is for bonsai.


I agree with you. Also size of wild olive leaves also depends on growing conditions of each individual plant. Is it on rocky terrain or fertil soil!
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It is off topic, but I must ask, because few of us have same plants around us.

Have you any experience with collecting from the wild Juniperus Phoenicea - Phoenician juniper?? I have dig few of them, tray to save as many fine roots as I can, but they didn't survive....

Here are 2 photos of my last failure

1. I have find it in the spring, prune, and leave in nature and leave...
2. After 2 years we collect him in January.

Untill July he gradually dieback, branch, by branch!

Do you have any useful advices for me? A friend from the club also have bad experience with them. I don't want to collect them any more, if I can't prevent them from dying.
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Old 22-Feb-2006   #17
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Originally Posted by menorcabonsai
We use few more species for bonsai proposes in our area:

Ficus carica (fig tree)

Phillyrea latifolia

And

Rosmarinus officinalis (rosemary)



Do you have this species in your area as well?
Yes,they are widely avaliable from commercial nurseries.BTW,it looks like you have a great site,by now,but not everybody reads/speaks Portuguese.A translation feature would be nice.
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Yes,they are widely avaliable from commercial nurseries.BTW,it looks like you have a great site,by now,but not everybody reads/speaks Portuguese.A translation feature would be nice.
Sorry to say that the main language of the webpage is not Portuguese, is Spanish, and you can find an English entrance link by clicking to the English flag in the right top corner.

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It is off topic, but I must ask, because few of us have same plants around us.

Have you any experience with collecting from the wild Juniperus Phoenicea - Phoenician juniper?? I have dig few of them, tray to save as many fine roots as I can, but they didn't survive....

.......

Do you have any useful advices for me? A friend from the club also have bad experience with them. I don't want to collect them any more, if I can't prevent them from dying.


I have a good system to collect difficult rooting trees, and can be extended to any type of tree, especially for a very old and valuable species.

Because is a long description, and I need to include some pictures or draws, I think is better if we open a new topic, because this one still talking about the launching of our webpage in November.

I collect Phoenician junipers from more than twenty years ago, and now the average of survivers is 100%.
I include now two pictures from the last Phoenician juniper that I collected, is more than 300 years old

The first one is in the field, three years ago, just before collected, and the other one is just two weeks ago, when I start to work with the wood.
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Sorry to say that the main language of the webpage is not Portuguese, is Spanish, and you can find an English entrance link by clicking to the English flag in the right top corner.

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WOW!, G'day Menorcabonsai,

Well it's not very often that I have to jump right in and do an immediate U-TURN regarding my opinions. Your site is near to perfection and your pictures are large, clear and very well presented, just truly wonderful and I sincerely thank you for widening my vision.

Sorry about the gushing, what more can I say, I shall be in touch with you later this week as I'm trying very hard to find out information regarding a Spanish bonsai bloke that does wonderful Ficus Caricas.

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