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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
Join Date: Aug-2005
Location: nsw
Country: australia
Posts: 99
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naked trees
Hello fellows and esses,
i am learning to style and along the way i have found that my eye love points tarard the formal upright, as to me i love the strength shown in the natural tree growth. though i can only seem to find pictures of trees in full bloom (example attached), could those of you who love to help please be able to post a summer and a winter picture of a decidious (spl) tree, for the branch structure and directions. apreciated heaps. http://forum.bonsaitalk.com/attachm...achmentid=23462 example (thankyou mr tree beard) |
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Tree herder
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Hello mtngoat,
I can show you that tree naked, but as I'm sure you know it is a broom and not a formal upright. A thought that occurs about formal upright bonsai... Most (if not all) formal uprights I have seen in shows are non-deciduous. One can surmise that this is because coniferous trees in nature tend to have a formal upright growth habit, and that deciduous trees normally don't. Having said that, I'm sure the members here can provide many examples of what you requested ![]() Regards, Chris.
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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
Join Date: Aug-2005
Location: nsw
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cheers chris,
so although a broom when in leave looks like a formal upright it is infact a broob in discuise? is there a before and after for the tree you posted? Last edited by mtngoat : 8-Jan-2006 at 08:57 PM. Reason: add to it |
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
Join Date: Feb-2005
Location: Madison, WI
Country: USA
USDA Zone: 4-5
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To me it looks like a broom. -Paul
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I think you might be experiencing some confusion when it comes to the definition of Formal Upright Bonsai... Have a look at some Members' Formal Upright Bonsai photos. Notice that they are (almost) all evergreen trees. Note also the branch placement and how it differs from Treebeard's Broom-Style Maple. Good luck. FlyBri.
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Bonsai Master, in my mind
Join Date: Feb-2005
Location: Back Home in Northern California
Country: USA
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G'day Goat...
Also, nearly all bonsai books will give you examples (photos and/or drawings) of most of the common styles... Pat
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Tree herder
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Hello Goat,
My maple is a broom. So-called because when bare it looks like an upside down broom, the kind made from bundled together twigs. There is no before and after in the sense I think you mean. It always was a broom and it will always be a broom (well, its dead now but you get the idea). Formal upright is completely different. It is characterised by a straight vertical trunk with horizontally placed branches, like the trees in the gallery that Bri linked to. Take a little time to browse the gallery, you will find plenty of examples of both broom and formal upright. Hope this helps to sort out any confusion ![]() Regards, Chris.
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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
Join Date: Aug-2005
Location: nsw
Country: australia
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help
i apreciate all the responses i recieved, although as i noted im new and therefore was slightly confused this could have been taken into acount when responding as i wasnt thick nor ignorant simply a noobie, with a mind wanting to be filled with the info you all have to give.
i realy thank you tree beard very clear consise and understandable, i now have a tad of clarity. some may remember back as to how confusing it does all get trying to get ones head around the art. as for a broom being a broom i mean an example of the tree in full leaf and as a broom without leaves. here is what i mean but the same specimen (yes i know they're different) |
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
Join Date: Jan-2004
Location: South Texas
Country: U.S.A.
USDA Zone: 9-10
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i'm flattered
same tree,different pot
I personally prefer this broom style tree bare..."naked" as you put it. andy
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