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18-Aug-2002
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I had an idea...
i have a huge Japanese Maple in my front yard, and i was wondering if i could take a branch and "branch" chop it and style the branch while its still on the tree, and when its decent enough to start working on its own, to air layer it off. would that be a good idea, or should i just air layer the branch off and trunk chop it from there |
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18-Aug-2002
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Great question, and I'd love to know the answer.
While we wait for someone more knowledgable then myself to come along, I've got a guess. My guess is that you'd do better by doing the layer first. The reason is this: conditions below the ground shape patterns of growth above the ground. On a branch of an adult full-sided tree, you're going to get really long internodes, and so you're not going to be able to develop the close tight branching structure that you'd want. Once you layer and remove, internodes should be much shorter and you'll be able to get much finer ramification. But that's just a guess. Can anyone verifiy and/or add their thoughts? -OMC
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18-Aug-2002
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As long as the branch is well located, you can do that. It could be a good way to heal a trunk chop because you have the power of the root system behind you. (If after chopping the stub, it's located deep in the dark interior of the tree or very low, and isn't getting much light, it might not be a good idea.)
It would be difficult to develop any real refinement while the branch is still attached for the reasons OMC mentions, so once you have the main cut healing well and a few branches to sustain the tree, it would be a good time to layer. Keep in mind that timing and issues with dieback still hold for any type of pruning, especially on Japanese Maple, and I would clean your tools in some diluted bleach before and after working on the yard tree. Regards, Matt
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18-Aug-2002
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Kazuki,
I too have had the same idea as you. The tree is a common privet in my back garden. It needs thinning out, it has 3 trunks about 2 1/2" caliper each. I plan to chop/layer 1 trunk. The difference with mine is that I am going to HAVE to trunk chop first, I won't be able to sever an air layer with the branches still on. The reason being, the branches are too badly intermingled with the rest of the tree. When I've pruned this tree in the past, the resulting new shoots have reeeaallly long internodes. I'm going to have to live with that, and try to sort it out when the layer is severed & established in the ground itself. My questions are: When do I do the chop ? When I do it, should it be the "unequal V" that people use for zelkova etc? Regards,
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