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Old 17-Dec-2003   #1
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Mini Bonsai Kit

Hey all,

I just recieved a mini bonsai kit from my sister for my birthday! It's made by Running Press, and contains seeds, a 2 in (~5cm) diameter pot, tiny scissors, sphagnum, and a mini booklet.

I did a search on the forum, and found that some of you have also come upon these kits. Has anyone had any luck? Try not to send any horror stories as I'm going to give it a try no matter what, and I don't want to get biased before I start

Also has anyone figured out what a Jack pine is yet? I've found a few references to it but no photos of bonsai.

Thanks everybody!

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Old 17-Dec-2003   #2
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Here are a couple of links for the Jack Pine.

http://www.treeguide.com/Species.as...85&Region=World
http://www.gov.nt.ca/RWED/parks/edu...hrubs_page8.htm

This one has some good pictures of the tree, cones, and needles.
http://littleflowers.biz/jack_pine

Here are a couple of alternative common names
Bank's Pine
Black Pine
Gray Pine
Hudson Bay Pine
Labrador Pine
Northern Scrub Pine
Princess Pine
Rock Pine
Unlucky Tree


Hope this helps

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Well, i'm no old pro ... but i've found that starting stuff from seed is a loooong process ! You're better off getting some nursery stock and working with that. Junipers, Japanese Hollies, or Boxwoods are favorites of mine. You'll have a nice Shohin size bonsai in just a few months that way !
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Thanks for your input guys,

Chip, I realize that it'll be a long time until my seedling becomes anything resembling a bonsai, but the way I see it, that's all the more reason to start now! I've already got a few other projects going, so I think I'll be distracted enough to wait until it is a mature enough to be called a Bonsai. I'm also scheming a way to grow it into several different styles that will make it seem more Bonsai-like from the start. I'm thinking of starting it out as a cascade, and then as the trunk thickens, allowing it to become a semi-cascade, until I feel like it'll work as an informal upright a restyle it accordingly.

I'm also wondering when I can plant the seeds, I'd like to start it as soon as I can as this spring is going to be very busy for me, but I'm not sure how much of a problem it would be to start it this month, and keep it indoors until spring.

Again let anyone who has tried this product let me know how it works. Thanks!!

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I'm also scheming a way to grow it into several different styles that will make it seem more Bonsai-like from the start. I'm thinking of starting it out as a cascade, and then as the trunk thickens, allowing it to become a semi-cascade, until I feel like it'll work as an informal upright a restyle it accordingly.
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This is not a smart thing to do. It will be stressful on the tree and possibly kill it. Also, there will be future flaws from removed branches in the past.

If you plan on growing from seed, you should put it in a large pot with well draining soil and allow it to grow for about 5 years completely unrestricted. Then, the tree will be old enough to style.

To grow the seeds, you should wait until early spring.
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Perhaps I've underestimated the limits of restyling. Or maybe I just wasn't articulate enough. I'll explain what I was thinking in a little more detail and see what you think.

If I were to take my seedling and wait until it reaches a height of 12-18 inches, and then repot and wire it down into a cascade, I assume there would be no problem with this. Of course it wouldn’t truly be a bonsai @ this point, but I could encourage it to grow so that it looked nice even @ this point. I like the idea of a young tree as a cascade because most cascades I have seen do not depend so heavily on trunk girth.

Eventually though the tree will age and gain some trunk girth, I'm not sure how long it would take but I'm guessing it would stay as a sort cascade style for 5-10 years. After that time however it would seem relatively simple to allow and encourage the base of the tree to grow and after some time is allowed for branches to grow long enough, let the tree take more of a semi cascade appearance.

Growing at this point the tree's girth should be a fair and after another 5-10 years the cascading branches can be gradually cut back, and eventually with some repotting and rewiring, the tree will look more like an informal upright and can continue to be grown and ramified to look like such.

To be honest, I have no true Bonsai, and am a complete novice. I just thought that this would be a more aesthetic way, though perhaps more lengthy, to eventually obtain an informal upright. It doesn't seem much different to me than the typical manner of pruning away branches after they have served their purpose. Only this way, the branches to be removed give the tree a distinctive and appealing shape before outliving their purpose.

I don’t know maybe I'm just impatient, I just thought that there could be a way to encourage and guide a tree to grow into the desired shape instead of letting it grow wild for years and then chopping it up.
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