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Some pines turn dull in color during the winter. Up here, Eastern White Pine (Pinus strobus) turns a dull green in winter but turns bright green in the spring.
The yellowish color might be from a lack of iron? I'd say go ahead and collect it if you can just lift it without cutting back on any roots. At least from my experience pines don't like to have their roots cut back much when first collected. This one might be sort of on the edge, too, growing in a stressful environment, so you want to give it every chance you can. Craig Cowing
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bonsaiTALK ArchMaster
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"The needles are turning a yellowish green, i'm sure as an effect of the roots being colder than it's ground-bound neighboring trees, whose needles are still dark green. Should this be looked at as the tree is in need of being removed from the cold brick wall ASAP or, as the tree is not at full health and as such should not be touched untill it gets warmer and the tree turns back green green again,.."
I doubt very much that the cold has anything to do with it. "Cold" would have to be VERY cold to damage even a S.E. native pine. Temperatures constantly below 25 degrees, probably lower than 20 degrees F, over a period of months, might be enough to harm the tree. Temperatures in the high 20s to low 30s, much less the warmer temps we've been seeing along th eastern seaboard this winter, aren't a problem It's probably a water issue--it's probably not getting enough, since it's roots seemed to be stuffed into a narrow environment that doesn't catch enough rain to sustain it. If the tree is already turning colors, it's stressed and is probably kicking off. That means it's pretty weak. If you collect it now, provide it with a sheltered environment and get as many roots as you can. Don't get attached to it, name it or count on it to become a nice tree. Most likely, it will die. Collecting a stressed tree out of season is usually a death sentence... ![]() |
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
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What kinda pine is it? 5-needle? 2 or 3-needle? Possibly ID'ing the neighboring pines would help. Collecting probably won't be different for the different species... but it might save you the trouble of collecting.
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w/ Hippyistic Tendencies
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Yeah it's growing IN the wall more or less, between the two layers of bricks, it is a mortered brick wall,...I can't really get a pic as it's about an hour and a half away. I'll take those odds on me falling xD. It sounds like the water problem might just be the one. I'll try it and see how far the roots go. Thanks ya'll.
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
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Zen strikes me that the three hour round trip to try and collect a tree that may not survive, the risk of personal injury and cost of the fuel for the trip
itself would kinda put me off the project entirely. My best advice would be IMHO put the money you save on the trip toward a JBP from your local plant/bonsai retailer. Imagine if you fell off the wall the medical bill could be huge. Jeremy take the easier option and keep that horn intact. By the way what does xD mean? Kind Regards Ash
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w/ Hippyistic Tendencies
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xD means luaghing guy. The pine is very nice and it wouldn't be too risky, my friend right down the street has an assortment of huge ladders that he uses in his paint business. And I do go and visit there pretty often anyway. I was more or less dead-set on getting this tree, and kinda just wondering about timing, but thanks for all the concern you guys, it means alot.
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