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To keep in the pot or bury in the ground?

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Old 29-Apr-2005   #1
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To keep in the pot or bury in the ground?

I have some nursery stock that I want to train as bonsai, they are: 2 rosmary plants, 1 mugo pine, 1 azalea, 1 concord grape vine, and a Japanese Andromeda. I know that it will take time to thicken the trunks, but which would be better to help the process, keeping them in training pots or planting in the ground for a couple of years?

Thanks for any advice you might have on this.
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Old 29-Apr-2005   #2
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For starters, where do you live?

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Old 29-Apr-2005   #3
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I live in Southern New Hampshire, about a 5 minute walk from the Massachusetts border.
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Old 30-Apr-2005   #4
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Ok. The rosemary needs to stay in a pot since it won't survive the winter there. Azalea, I'm not sure. It probably depends on the variety. Japanese Andromeda, I'm not sure. For that and the azalea you should check for the USDA zone it's rated for and find out what zone you're in. The nuersery where you bought them should be able to tell you that. You're probably in Zone 5. The mugo pine will do fine in the ground, but I'm not sure how quick a grower it is. I don't think it's quite as fast as other pines. That would depend on the size of the trunk. I hope this helps.

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If you plan to leave them in the ground for over 3 years, go ahead and plant them (except as mentioned above with the rosemary etc.) But if your time frame is shorter than that, there is probably no advantage to putting them in the ground. A tree will grow faster in the ground, but it does take some time to get established in the ground, then time to get established in a pot again when you dig it back up. So putting it in the ground for only a year or two probably doesn't do much good.

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Buring the pot with the plant in it complicates things greatly and has no real advantage. It may hinder the plant to the point of making the whole exercise pointless.

Burying the pot defeats its drainage capabilities, since the drainage holes will most likely be plugged by the surrounding soil. On top of that, you have gained none of the advantage you're looking for by planting in the ground in the first place. The plant is still in the pot and will be for some time, until the roots rot over winter from the excess moisture, they girdle the main plant over a couple of years, or until the roots find the drainage holes and grow out of them. Once freed, those roots might make something of the plant, but all this is very iffy. You can avoid all of it by simply removing the plant from the pot and putting it in the ground.

All of this is beside the point, however, if you live in an area where your local climate doesn't match the plants you're working with. Rosemary isn't going to survive a New Hampshire winter. A larger pot (but not too large) would work better in thickening it up. The azalea is iffy. The Japanese Andromeda won't fare very well with constantly wet feet.
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