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Old 6-Jun-2004   #1
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Just A Thought

I posted the picture below on another thread more as a joke than anything else. I got my chuckle and thought I had moved on. But for some reason I keep coming back to this silly sign.
It sort of reminds me of how some do bonsai. Always trying to find a new way of doing bonsai and mostly overlooking the tried and proven methods.
I'm not talking about the art portion here but the mundane things like soil, cut paste, raffia etc. Could it be that we are so busy trying to change things that we loose track of what works.
Raffia is a good example. So many things has been proposed as a substitute for it. Duct tape , surgical tape, the list goes on and on. But why bother looking for the new way. Raffia works, can be found in almost any craft store. No need to really change the way it is done, is there. Why spend the energy looking for a new item.
So I guess the question is are we so busy trying to prove things wrong that we fail to see what has always worked well
Are we so worried about the sharp edges on the sign that we don't notice that it says that the bridge is out.
Just a strange thought from a bored mind on a Sunday afternoon. Hopefully there are some other bored people out there that have thoughts on this.
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Old 6-Jun-2004   #2
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Ron,
Interesting questions you ask.
Speaking of sharp signs, a friend who sold knives posted a sign near them saying very sharp knives do not touch!
Guess what? He had even more folks dragging their fingers across the blade to test and see if they are really sharp. Yup, they were and they all stand there holding their bleeding fingers.
I know there is a moral in there somewhere!
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Guess they were all trying to prove the sign wrong
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Right on Ron!

The only reason why I see someone trying new things in place of the traditional is to save money. The only problem with this theory is that a lot of the techniques do not save a noticeable amount of money.
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Before I get myself into too much trouble I better say..............
Not all old ways are good and not all new ways are bad.
Just why are most us so ready to reinvent the wheel. If it isn't flat there is no reason to put air in it is there
Change can be good but I am not sure about change just for the sake of change.
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In the case of raffia, maybe it's because it's a pain in the neck.

(A roll of tape ain't no walk in the park, either)
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Just why are most us so ready to reinvent the wheel. If it isn't flat there is no reason to put air in it is there. Change can be good but I am not sure about change just for the sake of change


When I read this Ron, I had such a moment of clarity. I don't think anyone has verbalized what I'm often thinking quite so well. Thanks and I couldn't agree more.

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I agree with you Ron,

But what were they using before raffia to make those bends ?

I guess there's always place to an evolution in a technique (even if those in place are quite effective).

Some people learn things because someone taught them to do it one way and they will do it this way for the rest of their lives.

While some other people learn by experimentation. And maybe one person out of a thousand (or more) will come up with THE idea, thus bringing an evolution in a process. (that was working well)

And then there is people in between, who will learn things from a book, from some teachers and that after a while will ask themselves: "Can I improve something".

Very interesting thread Ron,

Well this is my two cents (canadian),
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If we are not careful we will be setting a record here. Seems like , so far anyway, everyone is in agreement.
That is not supposed to happen. Not on the internet anyway
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Ron,
I was going to mention that everyone will agree with you in my earlier post, but I decided not to. You explained it so well that it is nearly impossible to disagree.
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