just a question-Learn to Develop Stock?

007

I know exactly where that is!

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ripsgreentree

Please do not think of me as flipant, but you need a tractor.

Will: I would be interested in knowing how many years this material has been in the ground and how often it has been root pruned. If it has been in more than 4 years you have a field of yamadori with all of the transfering problems that collecting yamadori presents. Not necessairly a bad thing.
For ten years I had access to exelent growing grounds and had a lot of fun and a lot of work. At this point in time I am forced to grow above grounds.
As I move through this material I will try to provide decent pictures of what I am trying to do and what I expect to see as results. My goal is to help young bonsai artests understand growing techniques in a limited space. How to increase health and vigor and decrease recovery time on material collected from the field. I have the ability to take pictures but am finding that I have gremlins in my picture it publish it soft ware so it may be a while befor I can post pictures. Promis I will work on it as best as I can. My best days to publish material will be Mondays and Thursdays for now. I will ask all of you to be mindfull of the areia that I am in. (central California) Many of you will have to make adjustments for your own environment. Also sence I was last posting to this forum I have gone over to soil mixtures that have no organics at all. I am not expecting you to change but if you follow any of the experiments that I lay out you should try to use the same soil mixtures that I am using. If you then wish to duplicat these techniques in in other soil mixtures it will help all of us to understand which mixtures work best in diffrent environments. It all sounds like fun to me. I will start with soils and seed beds on Thursday. How I store seeds and techniques for germination. I will discuss pines maples and oaks.
Glenn Van Winnkle

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ripsgreentree

It requires an open hand to give and to recieve.

Will_Heath

I have been adding more trees and diversifying species every year so the age varies.

After three years in the ground they get spaded. (I removed about 50 trees two years ago and root pruned them before replanting, however the extreme lack of tap root development and increased recovery time with this method has led me just to simply spade the trees now.)

I also do all my major pruning while they are in the ground, I believe they recover quicker and will give me better stock when it is finally time to lift some. Meanwhile I have been collecting younger stock to see the reactions.

I look forward to seeing some pictures from you.




Will

007

This sounds like its going to be a good thread . . . . I'll be following it.

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ripsgreentree

I am going to try to get two pictures on thist post but first some home work.
Treecutter: I should have put this together but I think that I just have. In fresno you can reach me through Gray Anderson. I would love to get together with you and compare notes.
Because I have no ability to field grow I have develiped a siol that I call Calidama. That is my first picture. The second little inovation is called a ponding basket. It was develiped to hold water plants in fish ponds. After reading articles about growing black pines in collendars this was my more exceptable pot.

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ripsgreentree

It requires an open hand to give and to recieve.

Will_Heath

Pond baskets are nice indeed. Have you seen Vance's pots as well or had the chance to try them??

They work very well as a training pot and help greatly with fine root development, but they do no give the fast growth and trunk thickening that growing in the ground does, in fact I do not believe that anything can compare with open ground growth.


Will

treekutter

I have heard of the crushed hardpan.I t sounds like a great idea.The pond baskets work they are a good container.What is the cost of the baskers?

Will_Heath

It depends on where you get them. I have seen the 2 gal size at pond stores for 8 bucks and the same ones at Walmart in the fall for .89 cents.


Will

darrellw

There are probably lots of online sources, but here is one:

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Produ...&N=62728+113795

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Produ...&N=62728+113795

The first ones are pretty nice, as they are heavier duty than most I've seen.