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4-May-2005
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Juniperus rigida broad-needles
Howdy folks,
Anybody know anything about a broad-leafed [needles] Juniperus rigida? Best....Nigel
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4-May-2005
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Just managed to take a couple of pics of the J.rigida in question, hope someone can help.
Nigel
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4-May-2005
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Nigel,
Saw some of these at a Pacific Northwest Bonsai Clubs convention a couple of years ago (2003, I think Japan Bonsai from BC had them), when I asked about them, I was told "they are just Needle Junipers"- Other than that I haven't seen them again. But they truly seem to be different- is the foliage "soft"? John |
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4-May-2005
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G'day John,
My tree and one of a friend also, both were imported from Japan, labelled J.rigida. Well I suppose you could say that the needles are soft, leathery yes, and with very sharp fine points, a fine dark green with a brilliant silver flush on the underside of the new growth, mine is in flower now so if any set to fruit I shall post pics of same later. Best I can say for the moment....Nigel
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5-May-2005
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fugu...mmmm
 
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i wrote a super long post on this this thread yesterday for you oz. it didnt go through. ill try to rewrite it for you later tonight. sorry about that....
jeff Last edited by ripssurf : 6-May-2005 at 06:47 PM. |
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5-May-2005
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Looks like what we call "tosho" around here. Some what rare in these parts. Got mine from Chikugo-en(Mas Ishii). A little spensive, but you have to have one of everything right?
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6-May-2005
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
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Howdy Bonsainut,
Can you make yourself a tad clearer, do you mean Juniperus rigida 'Tosho', or Juniperus 'Tosho', or just plain old 'Tosho'? Wanna do a google search and my compoter is on its last legs , so it's a bit of a strain on the poor old thing. Nigel
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6-May-2005
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Howdy Jeff, looking forwards to reading your input.
Nigel
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6-May-2005
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fugu...mmmm
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ozzer,
sorry this post wont be as good as the original, but i guess that is the way it will have to be. here is the link i found. they provide some pretty good info on the j. rigida. other common names for this tree are: tosho (matsu), nezu (matsu), muro, and hai-nezu. it seems that there are also a couple of cultivars out there, although no specific info is listed. i looked up this tree in two books, the art of bonsai, by yuji yoshimura and giovanna m. halford, and bonsai: nature in miniature, by kyuzo and isamu murata. TAOB gives some general info about the tree. first off, the say it is an evergreen, a tree, needled, and diocious (meaning that each tree has a specific sex). suitable styles for tosho are formal upright, informal upright, slanting, semicascade, cascade, literati, coiled, driftwood, root-over-rock, clinging-to-a-rock, twisted-trunk, twin-trunk, clump, stump, straight-line, sinuous, two-tree, three-tree, five-tree, seven-tree, nine-tree, multiple group, multiple-tree, natural-group, clustered-group, and tray-landscape. the most suitable for the tree are the first six styles listed. there is also a dwarf of the species that is suitable for bonsai. tosho can be cultivated using cuttings, layering (if needed i can tell you the specific method recommended), and seed. this type should be repotted in late spring. when trimming, "pinch or pull off the top of the new bud at any time during the growing season. Example: juniper." wiring can be done anytime except early spring, but paper wrapped wire should be used and care should be taken because branches break easily. this species likes full sun, should be watered often, and needs to be protected from red spiders. i have to get ready for work. i will get you a follow up if i have time this morning or this evening after getting home. sorry about that. jeff |
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6-May-2005
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fugu...mmmm
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Part 2
nigel,
here is part 2 of the post. sorry about the delay; we had a real mess at work today. bonsai: nature in miniature, by kyuzo and isamu murata. i highly recommend this book if anyone does anything with japanese trees. according to the book, tosho juniper (matsu) is a hard tree. it is mist suitable for chokkan (formal upright) styles. this is the style i have personally seen in the mountains. there are many variations of this tree, "such as yore-nezu (juniperus rigida var. filiformis Maxim) whose branches and trunk crawl along the grown, and shidare-nezu the tops of whose branches droop down." "shidare" means "weeping". the best soil to use "is a mixture of coarse sand and 30 to 40% red clay" (akadama). furthermore "since tosho grow in the wild under severe conditions, its withered branches and trunk, with their bone white color, have the appearance of trees which have been swept by strong winds but have somehow survived. Its tip, therefore, should be made into a jin". when caring for this tree, "syringing the leaves with water is the best way to water the tree. this tree should also be fertilized in the same way as kuro-matsu (Japanese black pine). this tree should be nipped the same way as you would nip a sugi. "using shears for this will harm the tree" so use your fingers. "new twigs should be wired when the leaves have more or less hardened." paper-wrapped wires and raffia should be used and all unwanted branches should be cut off at the same time as wiring. jin should be made during the winter. this tree should be transplanted no more than every 3 or 4 years "when new buds begin to appear." this tree loos good in pots that are made from mud. i have never personally worked with this tree, but i have used the suggestions given in both books to the letter in caring for my cherry trees, JBP, and some others. i have found that it gives good advice. i have seen this tree in nature, and to be honest, i have seen it only in the "formal upright" style, but then, and tree worth making into a bonsai in japan has been collected already. i hope this helps somewhat. let me know if you have any questions. jeff |
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