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21-Jan-2004	#1
buzzy bonsaiTALK Adept Join Date: Nov-2002 Location: palmy north Country: new zealand Posts: 207	Japanese Fat Trunks i was wondering what do the japanese do to get the fat trunks you see, like on some of the tridents and beeches??the ones that look like pyrimids,do they grow them in grow boxes or is there other ways to do it?? cheers carl

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21-Jan-2004	#2
dbz12fan Charles Bevan Join Date: Apr-2003 Location: Florida Country: United States USDA Zone: 9B AHS Heat Zone: 9 Posts: 2,250	I am not sure about trident maples, but for most trees they will grow them vigorously then chop them back to a fat stump and grow the branching from there. __________________ "Success demands understanding"-Andy Rutledge Charles Bevan Vero Beach, Fl

21-Jan-2004	#3
mkonig I stand and stare a lot Join Date: Oct-2003 Location: Leicester Country: United Kingdom USDA Zone: 8 AHS Heat Zone: ? Posts: 646	Charles is right. The trees are allowed to grow to large proportions and then get cut back to within inches of the ground. they are then left to grow wild for a couple of seasons and then chopped again. The process is repeated until the required taper is achieved. the branches are then regrown from the bare trunk. I have read up on this on evergreen garden works and i am currenlty on the third chop of my european hornbeam. I am hoping to post some ictures in the spring> Mike __________________ I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person

21-Jan-2004

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I have read up on this on evergreen garden works and i am currenlty on the third chop of my european hornbeam. I am hoping to post some ictures in the spring

I'll be looking forward to that.

21-Jan-2004	#5
DavidN bonsaiTALK ArchMaster Join Date: Oct-2002 Location: Melbourne Country: Australia USDA Zone: 9-10 AHS Heat Zone: ? Posts: 3,348	Most of the large tridents from Japan have been field grown for over 20 years and trunk chopped many times to get the taper. Also they do extensive root work to get the fabulous nebari that you see. __________________ Bonsai Northwest Inc, Melbourne, Australia Bonsai Flora Nursery in Yarraville, Melbourne

21-Jan-2004	#6
Jerry Meislik bonsaiTALK Master Join Date: Nov-2003 Location: Whitefish Montana Country: United States USDA Zone: 4 AHS Heat Zone: ? Posts: 465	Besides chopping back, many low sacrifice branches are allowes to grow and thicken the trunk. These are ultimately removed when the desired taper is there. Jerry Meislik __________________ Jerry Meislik Whitefish Montana USA Zone 4-5 http://www.bonsaihunk.us/

21-Jan-2004

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How Lucky!

I Just found a picture of my Korean hornbeam that may just illustrate the point.

I have marked the various points where it was chopped.

It normally lives in the ground in my garden but it had to be lifted because we moved house. It is back in the ground now waiting for the chop in spring.
One more year and then its roots and branches.

For Scale, the pot it is in is about 45cm wide

Mike

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22-Jan-2004	#8
Salvelinus Bonsai Remedial Join Date: Dec-2003 Location: Cincinnati Country: USA USDA Zone: 6a AHS Heat Zone: 6 Posts: 108	A club member was in Japan once visiting a bonsai nursery. He was touring the growing fields and saw pines with 5-inch caliper trunks. He asked the owner how old they were. "120 years" was the answer. He asked when the owner would be lifting them. The owner answered "These trees are not for me, they are for my grandchildren!" That is one way to get a fat trunk. ;-) By the way, Mike, that will be one nice tree when it's done. Please keep us updated! __________________ Namaste, --Scott ><> "There seems to be no survivors to interview, but I suspect [kamakazi pilots] did not shout 'traytree' the moment before their personal sacrifice." -Herb Gustafson

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