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27-Oct-2005
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
 
Join Date: Feb-2005
Location: Madison, WI
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Hokkaido Elm Info
Hello all,
I am thinking of getting a Hokkaido Elm. I have seen them listed as hardy from zones 4-9. I am in zone 4/5 Just wondering if this is true and the tree is indeed hardy here in WI. I have heard of club members wintering them in thier basement under lights. I want to keep it in my new hoop house. thanks -Paul
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27-Oct-2005
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Seeing as these trees originate from the northern island of Hokkaido, (duh) where the weather is really cold I don't see a problem with a hoop house.
The smallest leaves in the plant kingdom and in time the bark gets deeply fissured. |
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27-Oct-2005
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bonsaiTALK Master
Join Date: Jul-2004
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i,m learning of good sources that these love exposure. there was good information on a recent ibc potensai post and on evergreengardenworks.com cheers andrew
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27-Oct-2005
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Secret Agent
Join Date: Nov-2004
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Midwest . . . the seiju that I got from eBay is being overwintered indoors (sort of). Its being kept in a greenhouse that is maintained at 45F for the duration of the winter. To be honest, I feel that this is a bit over protective, but since this tree came to me from much warmer climates I felt it necessary. However, in the future, this tree will be cared for just as any other deciduous in my area (i.e. unheated garage).
Basically what I am saying in a lot more words than necessary is that yes . . . your hoop house should be just fine so long as the tree is coming from a comparable climate.
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27-Oct-2005
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
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Does any one know how long of a dormant period these need?
It would be comming from Northern California. Thanks All -Paul
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27-Oct-2005
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bonsaiTALK Master Craftsman
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Do not bring them indoors!!!! I have killed two already that way. (I have no problem with seji indoors).
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
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Seiju Elm I see as being zone 5. So indoors without a domancey would kill them, right?
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28-Oct-2005
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Odd since seiju is a sport of hokkaido. |
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It has been suggested to me that Seiju are hardy between zone 3 through 10. Apparantly they are quite adaptable and capable of being overwintered indoor's without complication. They may lose some foliage (about 1/3 or so) but leaf right back out in spring. I don't know if the same can be said of Hokkaido . . .
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
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Bruce, I have been told that the Hokkaido Elm was not infact from the island of Hokkaido, but discovered by a Mr. Hokkaido.
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