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Old 29-Mar-2005   #21
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To take the high ground here...again.

Defacing web sites is not hacking, in fact calling such amateur actions hacking is like calling common graffiti on the bathroom wall art.

This sort of nuisance nonsense takes about as much computer skills as programming a DVD player, maybe less. Calling these vandals hackers is a direct insult and is akin to calling someone who can put a band-aid on a cut, doctor.

Most these kids who deface websites for fun couldn't hack their way out of a wet paper bag with an axe. And in case one of them is reading this, I will gladly challenge you....My IP, you get 24 hours, then it's my turn.


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If defacing the Wiki counts, Will, have the IP address of a certain forum member in Seattle - you might be able to sell some bathroom graffiti, or maybe an Edsel? The Wiki gets hacked all the time. It's practically designed to be hacked, so I have to check every couple days for graffiti.

But you wouldn't expect a forum member to do it!

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Old 29-Mar-2005   #22
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We all know of course that a watt is the power required to raise the temperature of a litre of water by one degree. So you can imagine the power of 100 watts!
I guess I should point out that I don't know this.

1. A kilocalorie (kcal) is the amount of energy required to raise the temperature of a liter of water by one degree C.

2. Watts are a unit of power, not energy, so it isn't comparable. You'd need to apply that power for a certain period of time (watt-seconds) to actually perform useful work.

The electrical company charges you for ENERGY (measured in kilowatt hours) not for power. So feel free to use all the power you want. Just don't use it long.

By the way - back of the envelope calculation says if you put 100 watts into a liter of room-temperature water for an hour, you could bring it to about the boiling point. It isn't a huge amount of power, though. We used to model heat output from a person in a room using a 100W bulb, but some probably radiate more - some less

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Old 29-Mar-2005   #23
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If defacing the Wiki counts, Will, have the IP address of a certain forum member in Seattle - you might be able to sell some bathroom graffiti, or maybe an Edsel? The Wiki gets hacked all the time. It's practically designed to be hacked, so I have to check every couple days for graffiti.

But you wouldn't expect a forum member to do it!

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Oh come on, Matt - lighten up!

That wasn't a useful contribution? I thought that image would cause no harm whatsoever and would bring a smile or two to folks' faces.

-Carl

(For those who missed it, I added this picture of a tapir's backside to the wiki entry for "reverse taper")

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Pardon me, fine fellows. I am nothing close to a geek in terms of computers or electrical engineering, but I happen to be a freak about grammar and vocabulary.

IMHO, any $%&#@ son of a %*+@! that accesses a computer without permission is a "hacker," regardless of the supposed 1337-ness of the super-1337 geekatrons who claim that they are superior because they "truly hack" and don't "merely crack."

I don't see any reason to play into the games of the "hackers" about who is more 1337 than who. Screw 'em all, they're all hackers if they gain access without authorization, regardless of how easy it is to gain access. After all, a trespasser is a trespasser whether they scale a wall and dodge a laser sensor, or just walk across you lawn

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1. A kilocalorie (kcal) is the amount of energy required to raise the temperature of a liter of water by one degree C.

2. Watts are a unit of power, not energy, so it isn't comparable. You'd need to apply that power for a certain period of time (watt-seconds) to actually perform useful work.

The electrical company charges you for ENERGY (measured in kilowatt hours) not for power. So feel free to use all the power you want. Just don't use it long.

By the way - back of the envelope calculation says if you put 100 watts into a liter of room-temperature water for an hour, you could bring it to about the boiling point. It isn't a huge amount of power, though. We used to model heat output from a person in a room using a 100W bulb, but some probably radiate more - some less


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Pardon me, fine fellows. I am nothing close to a geek in terms of computers or electrical engineering, but I happen to be a freak about grammar and vocabulary.

IMHO, any $%&#@ son of a %*+@! that accesses a computer without permission is a "hacker," regardless of the supposed 1337-ness of the super-1337 geekatrons who claim that they are superior because they "truly hack" and don't "merely crack."

I don't see any reason to play into the games of the "hackers" about who is more 1337 than who. Screw 'em all, they're all hackers if they gain access without authorization, regardless of how easy it is to gain access. After all, a trespasser is a trespasser whether they scale a wall and dodge a laser sensor, or just walk across you lawn

pootsie --- completely not 1337


Oh shut up.


Carl,

That was a tapir's backside? It looked a lot like Nancy, the waitress here at the Bloated Goat Saloon.


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Oh come on, Matt - lighten up!

That wasn't a useful contribution? I thought that image would cause no harm whatsoever and would bring a smile or two to folks' faces.

-Carl

(For those who missed it, I added this picture of a tapir's backside to the wiki entry for "reverse taper")

Carl,

No it wasn't a useful contribution.

There is a fundamental difference between what's posted here in the forum, which includes a lot of banter and joking, and what is presented as factual content in a FAQ or Encyclopedia, where it obstructs the goal of creating an online reference. I am sure that interpretation wouldn't be any different if you posted something like that on Wikipedia.

Probably the guy who posted "Smoke Weed - Party On!" on the Asagao Bonsai Club page was trying to be funny too. Maybe UBtz was expressing his own sense of humor with the Grinch on Bonsai Web?

Regards,

Matt

Incidently, changes along with IP addresses are logged in the bonsaiWIKI archive, indefinitely, along with every other change that has ever been made.

http://wiki.bonsaitalk.com/index.ph...aper&oldid=3386
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Now THAT was funny!



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Brilliant! I got a laugh out of both your pics. Thanks.
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"Reverse Tapir"...**Ha ha, SNORT* funny.
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