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Old 18-May-2002   #1
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growing in the ground

G'day everyone,
I have never tried growing a potential bonsai in the ground to hasten thickening of the trunk, but I like the sound of anything that will quicken the process. What I want to know is, how long do you let a tree grow in the ground without rootpruning?, i.e. Do you dig it up every year and rootprune or do you let it stay longer?

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Old 18-May-2002   #2
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Re: growing in the ground

i asked the same question.
i was told some people use a shovel to cut the roots.one side one year and the other side the next year,alternating like that.
someone correct me if im wrong.
what i want to know,is what sort of pruning/training they get while in the ground?
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I like the sound of anything that will quicken the process. *


Im pretty much just started getting into bonsai, so please excuse my ignorance...

Would growing a bonsai quicken the growing process for bonsai?

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Growing in the ground quickens the growth of the trunk but you are still talking several years. Once the tree goes in a pot the restricted growth really slows any thickening of the trunk. What you pot is pretty much what you will get for the next 5 -10 years.

Joan, I would worry about this right now. It's a great technique once you know more what you are doing.
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Woops, meant I wouldn't worry about this right now....
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Re: growing in the ground

If you are growing in the ground and are trying to thicken the trunk, I think you would prune just to keep the tree from getting out of hand, depeding on how much space u have. Root prune with a sharp spade as Denny said, one side one year and the next side the next year. Hope this helps.
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Re: growing in the ground

There are two schools of thought on this. The first says that you should prune the lateral roots every year or two in order to keep the feeder roots close in to the trunk. The second says that you should just let it grow for optimum growth. Both are true. If you do no root pruning for several years the feeder roots are going to be fairly far from the trunk. On the other hand, if you chop the roots every year that's going to slow down the growth of the tree considerably. Myself I would judge from the nebari/root buttress development. If that's looking good I'd just let it grow, the feeder roots can be worked back latter.

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Thanks everyone for your advise, I will give the spade method a go.
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Re: growing in the ground

thanks ozboy,shes a cutie.

thanks adam, for the advice.i was thinking a person would want to be sure to keep certain branches,but i guess thats better left for the turntable.

joan,everyones got to be a beginner first.
ignorence is always there to some extent,no matter what stage your at.
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Re: growing in the ground

I agree with what Tony said.
The method I use is to just let the roots grow and then a two years before I plan on lifting them I prune the roots
with a very sharp nusery spade.

I have Shimpaku junipers that have been growing in the ground for 10 years w/o root pruning. They are so slow growing, they need all the energy they can muster to thicken the trunks. In 10 years they went from pencil size to 3 " at the base.

I have J. White pines that I have root pruned a couple of times-it slows the growth on them which is what I want to do with the pines.

In the end I think alot depends on the species.
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