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bonsaiTALK Journeyman
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grow boxes
TB & Craig , thanks for your information.
I'm gonna try some of the plastic stuff so I don't have to rush making boxes, and in my leasure try the wood ones. |
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bonsaiTALK Master
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I would like to echo the comment about using the blue plastic barrells but cutting them to use just the top and bottom thereby getting two pots per barrell. We have a person who sells an assortment of these . He gets them from car wash business and they use them for soaps and waxes ( supper clean them out first) They also come in assorted sizes as restraunts use them in smaller sizes for things like apple juice etc. They have worked great for me and you can always find just the right size quickly
Regards, Jonathan
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bonsaiTALK Journeyman
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I have some treated wood that I'm considering using to make a few boxes.
Good and water resistant, but the chemicals in the wood have me hesitant. Does anybody have any thoughts on this? Thanks!
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Carrier of Bonsai Fever
Join Date: Oct-2001
Location: So-Cal, US of A
Country: America The Beautiful
USDA Zone: Zone 9-10
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Wendell,
Arsenic, copper, and chromium called chromated copper arsenate (CCA) have all been used as wood treatments. Human exposure to this stuff is well documented as being bad for you. As a framing contractor for many years this was a constant worry to us. And the poor kids who play on outdoor structures built out of it. yuck! Of course the lumber industry maintains that it is safe, of course. As to plants Conmmon sense would tell you not to plant an edible item in it. But as to trees, well CCA is basically a pesticide and most trees are pretty hardy toward sprays and dust, etc. The EPA has a ton of stuff you can't do with treated wood like burn it, compost shavings, use it for animal bedding, or in building and storage for animal or human food storage, and on and on. So one has to ask oneself is it worth it. Ya know, to your own health let alone to your precious potensai.
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Bonsai nare-do-well
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Personally I use Mica pots to grow out things. They are cheap and do not rot like wooden boxes.
And they do come in all the traditional bonsai pot shapes. Looks a bit better in the garden. |
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Bonsai Otaku
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Ron has a good point.
I've also tried plastic dish-tubs and stuff - cheap and about the right size for some things. Now, I'm progressing to cheap large stoneware bonsai pots. They'll last forever, (unlike plastic and wood) and don't poke you in the eye with their ugliness. You don't have to make them, drill them, or burn holes in them. Just have to buy them. The only downside is the weight, but I'm not dealing with anything over 3 foot, so it's probably good exercise for me anyway. Fish.
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bonsaiTALK Journeyman
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Ron.
I like the idea of using mica pots, but have found them to be a bit pricey. For a good size pot over $20 and sometimes quite a bit more. Do you have a cheaper source--possibly an online wholesaler or something along that line? Thanks. Wendell
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Bonsai nare-do-well
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Well one time I was a good souse. Hate to say it but I was the one responsible for about 85% of the Mica sold in the US. I was the dreaded importer of them.
Now I have turned the selling of them over to others and just import for them. This gives more time to teach and do a bit of traveling. The one with the largest supply of Mica pots is Jupiter Bonsai in Florida. Their web page is http://jupiterbonsai.com/ They have distributors in a couple of other states and I think that the others are listed on the web page. I do keep a supply on hand to take with me to clubs when I do workshops for them. But now that is about all I do in the sales department on Mica. |
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bonsaiTALK Master Craftsman
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Wendell,
Certainly mica is cheaper than the equivalent stoneware pot and probably also the cost of materials and your time. Also consider the appearance of your efforts. Black nursery pots and wooden boxes get unsightly after awhile. For $30-$50 you get a pot that'll last decades. Wooden boxes of untreated lumber tend to last a few years at best. Jupiter and Ron are going to be the cheapest prices going. Wholesale, while less than retail, is reserved for legitimate businesses. Jim Stone TX |
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