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Old 18-Nov-2005   #1
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Ficus Species?

I'm near 100% sure this is a ficus, But what kind is it? Does anyone have a clue? I think that it is a Ginseng Ficus (Ficus Retusa).

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Old 18-Nov-2005   #2
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I'm near 100% sure this is a ficus, But what kind is it? Does anyone have a clue? I think that it is a Ginseng Ficus (Ficus Retusa).

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Almost looks like a ficus petolarius (sp) Not sure though.
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is it possible for a close up picture of a leaf?

are the new leaves red when they first appear?



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Old 19-Nov-2005   #4
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I think also Ficus microcarpa 'Ginseng'.
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Old 19-Nov-2005   #5
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Thanks for a the replys,

No, they are not red when they first open up. And I will try and get some more photos soon.

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A definative NAME...anyone?

Is there a definatve name for this very common ficus...?

I've found it called Ficus retusa (aka F microcarpa), Ficus retusa "Ginseng", Banyan Fig, Taiwan Fig, Ginseng Bonsai, and maybe more.

Is it Ficus retusa, formerly F microcarpa?
Or is it Ficus microcarpa, formerly Ficus retusa?
Or are these 2 seperate species?

Then, are "Ginseng", Banyan Fig, and Taiwan Fig the same?

And, finally, native to where? I've found China, Japan, India, China/Japan, and China/Japan/India.

My research, although not exhaustive, indicates that all this is a single species.

Does anybody really know?

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This area about Ficus has and will create continuing difficulties. There are two problems involved. One, that every other person gives the same material a different common name. This is the identical problem with all plant material and not specific to Ficus. Two, growing Ficus fromeven one fig full of seed results in loads of varied looking plants that are all related and technically of the same genus and species but have a slight variation in their appearance,perhaps a whiter bark, a thicker or a longer leaf etc.
My underatanding is that Ficus microcarpa is the real scientific name for all the plants mentioned. Under this heading come varieties of microcarpa, Ginseng, Green Island, Ficus retusa, and Taiwan Fig. There are even more! Banyan fig I have heard applied to microcarpa, rubiginosa, religiosa, and begalensis to name only a few.
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Jerry,

Is the so-called "ginseng" ficus a product of culture or is it geneticly different than other microcarpas?

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I do not think it is cultural but a genetic tendency to form very large "carrot-like" roots. Any cutting removed from the mother plant, will in time, produce the thick roots. Then the grower lifts these roots up above the soil and sells them displaying the huge roots as trunks.
Even if the large roots are cut off, new small roots will form but in time these will also swell up and look like carrots.
I have not worked with one of these varieties but I would strongly suspect that the above is the case.
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Sorry it took so long, here is a close up of the leafs .


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