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21-Oct-2005
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I thought kingsman is a graft thing...but up until this thread I thought the golden coin was aswell.
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22-Oct-2005
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Additionally, according to the univ. of floridal horticultural college, F. Micorcarpa (or what ever it was) is the former name for F. Retusa. The current scientific name is F. Retusa.
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22-Oct-2005
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don't ya just love how the latin names keep being reclassified.
For everything too.... Orchids change regularly. tropicals Succulents Everything... kalanchoe was just changed to bryophyllum (which sounds like an orchid name) I could go on and on with the changes What are they doing to us green thumbs? |
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22-Oct-2005
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Wes,
The only golden coins i've ever seen were grafts...not saying they all are but evidentily they are often grafted onto older(and perhaps more robust) ficus retusas.They also for some reason have always been very chlorotic..again,the ones i have seen. 007, I grew up(so to speak) calling them Ficus retusa nitida...and then they were microcarpas and now back to retusa?.....Keeping species straight is difficult enough...varieties are a nightmare  Mordachai, changing the name of Kalanchoes?....now that's just going too far....  andy
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22-Oct-2005
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Hi Andy,
Yeah I had read awhile back that the golden coins are grafts(manmade) sports,and kingmans are greenislands grafted onto retusa stock.Maybe they are the same thing.
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22-Oct-2005
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For what its worth here is my take on it.
All the trees that we have been mentioning are varieties of Ficus microcarpa. Thus Gold Coin, Tigerbark=Kingman, retusa, Green Island, Golden Gate etc are varieties of microcarpa. They all have some more or less unique variation in bark color, leaf character etc. I have seen Gold Coin offered only as a graft on regular microcarpa stock probably because it does not form a decent sized trunk quickly and it is easier to pop it on common microcarpa which does form a nice tunk quickly. Jerry
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22-Oct-2005
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Alright Thanks Jerry!
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22-Oct-2005
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Now this I agree with. Mostly because it is true ;o) |
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22-Oct-2005
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FWIW . . . all the kingman/golden gate/tiger bark retusa's in my area are on their own root stock. I have never seen one that has been grafted. They root quite easily from cuttings and trunk up rather nicely. IMO, they are the best ficus to work with.
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22-Oct-2005
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Well this has become a surprisingly interesting thread, given where it started. I just figured I was ignorant....didn't realize how "flexible" ficus nomenclature was.
Thanks everyone. Brian
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