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Do You Take Pride in your Wiring?

View Poll Results: Do You Take Pride in Your Wiring?
No - It doesn't matter to me 6 12.24%
I try hard, but just can't get it right 10 20.41%
It's tedious work, but I love it 20 40.82%
My wiring looks better than my trees 7 14.29%
I always get compliments on my wiring 6 12.24%
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Old 15-Aug-2005   #11
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HB,
That was well said. Joe is definitely a great wirer. I tell people in demo's, classes or here at home all the time, wiring is what seperates the men from the boys ( or women from girls ). When you are watching a wanna-be pro doing a demo at the mall and he says ( I hate to wire), you can figure right off he never learned and doesn't know how. He's a "check-writer". I've seen it often.

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From the display point of view... if you are displaying the tree it shouldn't have wires on it. "

Saint,
Ever been to Japan ?
Talk about gorgeous wiring on conifers in shows!!

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Old 15-Aug-2005   #12
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wiring tropicals

"Tropicals grow really fast in the tropics, and I tend to use tie downs wherever possible. It does look nice when you wire up a whole branch but when you realise that because of growth you will have to take the whole thing off in three weeks or risk scarring it can really be alot of work"
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I have to agree with the Saint regarding the tropical thing. They do grow way to fast to be worrying too much about perfect forty five degree angles...
I go so far as using the "loose coil" method on them just so I can leave the wires on a little bit longer, especially on very tender growth. It isn't Japanese, it isn't traditional but I get some nice movement in what would otherwise be curveless growth.

I do admire a good wire job though. I try with the junipers and other non tropicals. There was some awesome wiring at the BSF convention last month.
Seeing wiring like that does make one try harder.
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Old 15-Aug-2005   #13
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Thomas I'm not sure you should be using your pic number 2 as a demonstration of artistic wiring - I can see crossed wires in at least 2 different places.

Sorry to be nitpicky, no offence meant.

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Bob,
I never said that pic was a reference to artistic wiring. Was just showing the difference between a ho hum wiring, and something that took more time than usual, to try and look at least presentable. Maybe I should have worded the paragraph better so as not to misrepresent something.

But then again I never thought someone would comment on that either.
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Old 15-Aug-2005   #15
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Here's a further step in the right direction: a pretty darn nice set of wiring detail phots from Chris (bonsaikc):

http://www.bonsaikc.com/wiring2.htm

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Old 16-Aug-2005   #16
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Why thank you, Carl! As Boon says, "For wiring to be acceptable, it must be both effective and beautiful." That's the standard I am trying to hold myself to every time I grab a wire.

By the way, I have seen Howard's wiring, and I am ashamed to call mine the same thing!
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I agree with John Dixon. While I always try and make wiring look as neat and tidy as possible, I ensure its doing its intended job first and foremost. It's probably my favourite aspect of bonsai (I'm warped I know lol), as its hands on work and you really feel you are creating.

Yes, sometimes it really peeves me off, when you have the heavy gauge wire, and it just wont shape as you want it too whilst in the midst of a dense canopy no matter how much you swear at it, but overall I really enjoy it.

Like the trees themselves, wiring is something that takes a few years to make beautiful.

All the best,

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Old 16-Aug-2005   #18
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I guess I fall into the "I try, but I just can't seem to get it right" category. I would love to be able to wire like a pro. I agree that the wire should be both functional and aesthetic. I just can't seem to get the "aesthetic" part down. So, I follow John D.'s way of doing things...make sure that it is functional first, and then try to make it look decent while seeing to the functionality. Like Jennifer, I am aware that few workshops and classes would really help, but also like Jennifer, I am crampled for time and funds. So I make do and keep practicing. I have scheduled myself for a class at American Bonsai Nursery in Van Buren, AR., in October. I do not know the owner/operator, Bill Choate, but he should be more knowledgeable than I and should be able to teach me a thing or two.

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