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Old 26-Mar-2008   #41
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So, Al, do you dig the entire juniper up or can you just claim a section of it? Most of 'em are monster sized.
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Old 26-Mar-2008   #42
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Barry,

I can tell you what happened to me about 8 years ago when I was in Palmdale with Hirao-san on a day of digging. As we were walking along a utility road on a hill Harry and I passed by this large juniper "clump" with a central trunk and Harry hit me and uttered the magic words, "masterpiece", pointing to the central trunk of this 6 foot high juniper clump. Of course I immediately dropped my tools and burlap bag and started to remove the central trunk. I had to pull out and break off several large side branches to get to the trunk. After half and hour and a lot of work one of our senior advisers on the trip (Joe James) came walking by and said it was too tall and I'd be wasting my time so I thought about it and came to the same conclusion so I filled in the partial hole I made and gathered up my tools when I noticed one of the side branches I broke off had some roots at the base. Needless to say I wrapped it up in wet burlap and brought it home. The medium is plain 100% pumice in a deep plastic pot. After all these years I finally started styling it last year. Here is a picture from last year prior to styling.
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Old 27-Mar-2008   #43
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Wow, thanks for this great thread, someday I hope to get out there and collect these amazing trees!
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Old 27-Mar-2008   #44
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G'day Al...

To the best of my recolection, that Juniper is the best "rescued from the trash heap" junipers I have ever seen.

That "8 years ago" trip must have before the relatively new IMPERIAL size class made it's way to Southern California...? Many in bonsai still believe that anything over 48" IS NOT BONSAI.

I discovered that late in the 20th century, a new size classification emerged...the IMPERIAL Size...up to 120"...yes, 10 feet tall! The IMPERIAL classification evolved out of the fact that a number of bonsai living in the Imperial Collection in Tokyo, outgrew the existing size classification.

Sounds to me as though the subject under discussion was about 60% of the max bonsai height...?

That could have been a first...

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Old 27-Mar-2008   #45
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G'day All...

I'd like to contribute a little to Al's history...

I have a book...BONSAI, MINIATURE TREES-THEIR SELECTION, CULTURE AND CARE, written by CLAUDE CHIDAMAIN. First published in 1955. He graduated from USC sometime previous to 1946. Reprinted 1956, 1958, 1960...no revision cited.

In Chapter1, Claude cites "...a dozen excellent bonsai nurseries in California, a thriving club in Southern California...", and "...bonsai collections in public places (such) as the Brooklyn Botanic Garden in New York...".

Claude adresses collecting bonsai...however, in Japan, not Southern California.

He said, in 1955, about collecting bonsai in Japan "That one-plant-in-a-thousand that nature has perfectly fashioned for bonsai is rapidly becoming extinict…”.


Can that happen here?

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