Branch Bending: A method that worked.

RedPine

Bending and wiring is one of my favorite parts of bonsai. We all have seen and some even have accomplished this type of thing in some form before as you have here. Many people teach the wrapping of a branch/trunk before bending, and how to bend etc.. even using rebar, pipe, chopstix etc.. for support. I also know that people who have had a chance to work with Jim Gremmel come home with junipers tied and twisted into complete knots. Someone out there even has a trick with a cigarette to demostrate exactly how well it works. In the WorldofBonsai10 video clip you can see a grower with some twisted pines & junips, I wonder how they got that way? The hollowing stuff from Peter Thali(sp?) shown at IBC is probably being the most advanced bending I have heard about.

All of this is great and the first time you see it man it really blows your mind, and if you can learn to apply or adapt it to your own trees? I don't have to tell you how that feels. I think we owe our teachers and seeing your results in this thread I bet is all the thank you Mr. October would want. Like BonsaiAl I want to say You have done well, sux about the graft but even if the tree swells all funny it has already paid for it's self in the purist of better things.


To those involved in this "behind the scenes controversy" I gotta drop a Walter Pall quote on you- "we all cook with the same water".

And to Miss V what can I say, but to quote an old iron fisted warrior- "learn all the ways so that you may know your own".

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Neild

Species specific question regarding this technique. Buxus branches are notoriously brittle and this seemed very succesful. However, what are some of the forums thoughts regarding kyo hime maple?

Maybe I'll try this in the spring on an "expendable branch that is destined to be removed.

Thoughts?

Victrinia_Ensor

Wes your post is exactly the point of this thread... to open the mind, and teach. To play with the possibilities you didn't know you had, because you held yourself back with the concept of... I can't move THAT... Thats what I said to Rob... He proved me wrong. Very eloquent post Wes... I enjoyed and appreciated it greatly.

Neild... I'll have to ask Rob (who knows more about the technique...) to address that question... he'll be around tomorrow...

Yours most kindly,

Victrinia

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Victrinia_Ensor

SOOOOOOOO I wired more... and thought I would speak to this whole idea more.

I thought, since the upper branches were a lot smaller I would just wrap, and then wire... I did the tight coil method... but had no holding power because I was undersized on my wire. Which kinda suprised me. After doing that TWICE... once with 2.5mm and then 3.0mm.... I got disgusted (lol) and broke out the 4. I have to go back to something David said once... to those of us who were learning... he said... until we got really comfortable with wiring... size it, and then go one size bigger. Silly silly me... I should of remembered that. Oh well... I unwrapped it very carefully, so I could straighten it out.

So with 4.0mm wire I nailed it good. I did 2.5mm bars also... cuz I was tried of playing around. Decided to just do the whole nine yards...

Glad you all arnt the only ones learning here... I am too. (smile)

Shots are from the front, a bit to the side, and kinda shooting down on top of it somewhat.

Yours most kindly,

Victrinia

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october

Hello Neild. The technique is certainly revolutionary. Actually, Master Tsukad performed his demonstrations on maples. The reason for the extremely close wiring is to be able to make small curves through out the brach. Almost like a non-patterned undulating sort set of curves.


Vic. everything looks great.

october

Also, your wiring is pretty close to Tsukada's as far as spacing. However, he wires more like the angle of conventional wiring. You know, like the coils look diagonal when you view them from the front. I wish I had pics of his wiring. I realiaze it may be difficult to understand from reading. I was fortunate enough to watch him and see his post work very close up. Here is a virt....something like this

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october

Another virt...sorry about my remedial painting

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Victrinia_Ensor

Oh gawd... do you think I should undo it? Or just work at improving?

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