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Old 15-Oct-2006   #11
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Zube..

Well there is no graft marks anywhere... So whatever it is... I dont think it's a graft. Or it's the cleanest most even graft ever done...lol But I wont swear to it. I'll look in the morning... but I think that spot you are indicating is where the burlap tie was... I think it choked it a bit and so it gives an odd spot to the trunk. But as I said... I'll look again and take some pics... maybe that will help.



I am glad you guys liked the post. It was worth the effort to be sure.

And the size of a tree is always hard to tell in a pic and people often will throw something in the pot for scale... I decided to use me... well some of me anyway... here's me and my girl nessie...

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Old 16-Oct-2006   #12
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Way to go Vic!

Nice job, well done....
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Nice photo sequence Ms.Vicky. I love the way you are taking the measures to insure your pine is the best it can be.

I do have to agree though that does look like a graft union to me. In fact I can even see flaky black line bark beloy and smaooth white pine bark above. In fact the union looks like a very good cleft graft, you can see the outline of the"v". That is not unusual to have such a smooth graft union. That is what they all should look like. A close up of the area might confirm the graft. A grafted pine is not a bad thing, it makes the plant stronger. The only time it becomes a problem is when it gets really large and the trunk looks very different above and below the graft. Even at this young stage it looks as though that may be happening.

I have seen cork pines grafted onto black pine roots. The ones that are done low look pretty good, but those done too high look like very terrible reverse taper and really diminish the tree.

Good luck on your pine I know you will have fun with it, Al
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Old 16-Oct-2006   #14
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Depending on the size of the pictures, sometimes a smaller kb picture will load first rather than the order you "save" them at. If they do not load in the right order, keep the one that should be first and delete the others. Then load them one at a time in the order you want. That way they will be in the correct order. You have to do this within 24 hours or so, else the edit option dissapears.
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It would seem... that Grampz posted a fantastic thread to the same effect as this one back over the summer when I was traveling. I think anyone who would want more information on the same vein would be WELL advised to read it. It is seminal in nature regarding generally the same method.

http://forum.bonsaitalk.com/showthr...=branch+bending

Grampz's articles are weighty in nature... but learning is in the details, what seems like a good theory here is explored to it's limit there.

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Irene (aka Chica)... Thank you dear... that was very sweet.


Al... my friend... thank you for the encouragements. I think it's going to be a marvelous tree to learn with. I will take a closer look at the trunk tomorrow and post pics... you boys may be right... as usual...lol And I'll try that method for loading the pics... I was going batty with it and simply gave up earlier...lol

And Al if it is a graft, and you think it's going to start reversing on me... (eek!) is there anything I can do to slow that process up?dang I'll be bummed if that happens.


Rusty.... ummm..... both? lol


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Vic, first of all, I'm not certain that it's a graft, but I believe that's what your initial description/label would indicate. If it is, it looks great. It isn't necessarily on black pine either. The base area looks to have pretty smooth bark. If it is grafted, it probably won't create reverse taper at the union (such as a cork-bark pine can do), but in fact the opposite. The root stock can/may outgrow the upper portion. At this point, I think it looks superb.
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P.S. Thanks for the last picture. With the tree for comparison, it's now easier to tell what size your head is.
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Vic, first of all, I'm not certain that it's a graft, but I believe that's what your initial description/label would indicate. If it is, it looks great. It isn't necessarily on black pine either. The base area looks to have pretty smooth bark. If it is grafted, it probably won't create reverse taper at the union (such as a cork-bark pine can do), but in fact the opposite. The root stock can/may outgrow the upper portion. At this point, I think it looks superb.
Take care,
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P.S. Thanks for the last picture. With the tree for comparison, it's now easier to tell what size your head is.

OMG ROTFL LMAO LOL and every other very expressive term for extreme mirth.

Oh Zube... you have no idea how much I needed that. You rock!

You are currently my hero.

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If fact... you are given special permission to say any outragous thing to me, or about my trees, for all time. You are now on the "can do no wrong" list. Just for that.


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