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8-Nov-2004
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Art goes back to the earliest humans, not just back to "the Egyptians." Cave paintings, carvings, etc. are far older than even that culture, tens of thousands of years.
This has some bearing on bonsai I think. Although cave paintings and pre-historic art are "crude," at best, by modern standards, they are quite beautiful and well thought out--the Lasceaux cave paintings, for instance. Their execution and perspective isn't up to "modern" standards. Does that make them inferior to Picasso, or do you have to judge both on their own terms? Can one apply this kind of thinking to "bad" bonsai and "good" bonsai without getting hysterical about it?  Just carrying through a ridiculous thought... |
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8-Nov-2004
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good point tony. although, i was only on about the growth habbits above the ground, the formation of buds and how they grow in certain positions. don't get me wrong, i'm all for pruning back long growth so as the leaves stay small, but when it comes to branch placement, surely the tree would be best at deciding what a tree should look like?
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9-Nov-2004
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bonsaiTALK Master Craftsman
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"when it comes to branch placement, surely the tree would be best at deciding what a tree should look like?"
Not really, Alasdair. That would be true of a tree growing in the ground, given good growing conditions and left alone. They pretty much do grow branches in the right places and will grow into a good representation of the species. Bonsai is different though. You have to keep them small by chopping and pruning. This mucks up their natural disposition. You as the grower/designer have to choose which branches to leave and which ones to prune off. Even naturalistic styled bonsai are forced to grow that way. If you plant a small tree in a pot and just let it do its own thing you won't have a naturalistic bonsai you'll just have a mess. Tony |
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