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29-Aug-2005	#1
drewhart bonsaiTALK Craftsman Join Date: Jun-2005 Location: cleveland, ohio Country: u.s. USDA Zone: 5B AHS Heat Zone: ? Posts: 94	azaleas are satsuki azaleas and karum azaleas any different from the ones you find in the garden centers. all the good azalea bonsai i see have good trunk movement, but the ones in the garden centers are straight as arrows. is the movement a result of the styling or the species.

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30-Aug-2005	#2
zube bonsaiTALK Master Craftsman Join Date: Jun-2005 Location: NW Oregon Country: U.S. USDA Zone: zone 8 AHS Heat Zone: ? Posts: 789	The attractive movement that you see in nice satsuki is generally wired into them when they are small. They are invariably raised from cuttings for display. You can sometimes find material at nurseries however. 'Hino Crimson' is one variety of kurume that is commonly available. Good luck, zube

31-Aug-2005	#3
drewhart bonsaiTALK Craftsman Join Date: Jun-2005 Location: cleveland, ohio Country: u.s. USDA Zone: 5B AHS Heat Zone: ? Posts: 94	yeah i actually found a nice hino crimson with some nice trunk movement to it. do those grow fast? its small now, about how long do they take in the ground to achieve like maybe an inch caliper to the stems? i dont know if thats answerable or not.

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