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Old 24-Feb-2006   #1
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Ancient tree found in gravel pit

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Ancient tree found in gravel pit

But what species of tree is it??

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Old 24-Feb-2006   #2
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They say it's an oak, just don't know what kind. I wish there was a picture to go along with it. I just can't help but be bothered by this quote after they talk about how "awe" inspiring the tree is:

"The owner of a lumber mill now treating some of the chocolate-colored wood with chemicals said it could command top dollar for fine furniture or plaques if it can be properly preserved"

Sounds to me like it belongs in a museum.

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they are crazzy for cutting it up like that and selling it to make fine furniture ,,,,i hate when people find something like that a ruin it ,, take the whole thing to the national history museum,,and put it in a big glass container,,so every one can enjoy it ,, this guy is just out to make a buck
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Yes, that's what I wondered. What kind? Could they even tell? What kind of oak lives at the edge of a glacier? Or did the glacier come very quickly? Is it a type of oak that still exists in the area?

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Here's a picture of the log:

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Old 24-Feb-2006   #6
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That Oak probably didn't live at the edge of a glacier. It just got in the way of one. Glaciers push alot of stuff ahead of them as they move. They push boulders hundreds of miles, gouged out most of the lakes in the Northern part of the country. They did alot of this kind of thing. This tree got caught in an air free place and was preserved.

It's not hard to tell what kind of wood is what. Oak is pretty distinctive in grain and other characteristics.
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Now if it was 6,000 years old and still alive.... I would have been impressed !

Where is that link to the oldest living tree ? .........
arhhh...

here is something of further interest !

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they are crazzy for cutting it up like that and selling it to make fine furniture ,,,,i hate when people find something like that a ruin it ,, take the whole thing to the national history museum,,and put it in a big glass container,,so every one can enjoy it ,, this guy is just out to make a buck

Hmmm, how would that work, exactly? Who would go to see an old log? A very few, would be my guess. So who would defray the cost of moving it, preserving it, and housing it?

Yeah, the guy is out to make a buck, and I hope he does very well with it. It's no museum piece, but it could be if someone makes something beautiful or useful or both out of it. But even if nothing comes of it, what could possibly be wrong with the profit motive?

It pains me from time to time to see stately old trees destroyed for building space or some such, but this log was buried for 6,000 years! I hope he makes a fortune from it!
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G'day all...

Try this for the world's oldest living thing.

http://waynesword.palomar.edu/ww0601.htm#oldest

This is a Creosote Bush, native to the USA Southeasten deserts...Arizona, California, and more. Estimated age is over 11,000 years.

The Creosote is perpetuated by sprouting new growth, from roots of the parent, in concentric rings around around the parent. The 11K ring, above, is over 50' diameter.

Straying from the original subject, but, talking about the "world's oldest living thing", I like the story about the Grad Student (let's call him Gradstu), who was on a field trip to So. California's White Mountains with his Professor (we'll call him Prof). The purpose of the trip was to study the age rings on some of the magnificant ancient Bristlecone Pines.

Before wandering off, Prof asked Gradstu to count the age rings on a particularly fine, very old Bristlecone. Gradstu said "OK" and went to work.

A couple or so hours had passed when Prof returned to see how Gradstu's project was going...and, shock of shocks...Gradstu had sawed through this 4-5' diameter speciman, and was now busy counting the age rings.

So much for the preservation of of protected species...not to mention National Monuments.

I wonder if Gradstu ever attained his advanced degree?

I think I'll go out and look at my one and only collected (from a private landscape under develloment) Creosote.

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I understand the world's oldest living things to be stromatolites, off the western coast of Australia.

There are many, many Kauri pine logs that have been preserved in bogs in New Zealand for up to 70,000 years. You can buy quite a lot of things that have been made from it, particularly some very beautiful bowls and platters.
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