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3-Apr-2005
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bonsaiTALK Journeyman
Join Date: Dec-2004
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30 seedlings is a lot for a relatively small space like in the planter provided, so I'd recommend obtaining additional pots/planters. That way you won't have to worry too much about them getting too entangled with each other before they are sturdy enough to be transplanted either into their own individual pots or into the ground.
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3-Apr-2005
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Albino Squirrel
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Oh well, they are all in separated 'pots', it would be horrible to put them all in that same little pot!
BTW here's what I got yet! (The longest is 6.5 cm long) Max
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12-Apr-2005
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bonsaiTALK Neophyte
Join Date: Mar-2005
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Very nice Max! How did you germinate the JBP seeds? Did you use a special soil or some other method? Use any special lighting?
Would I be able to germinate my JBP seeds in some damp papertowel? Instead of planting the seeds directly into the supplied soil I got with my kit, and not knowing if they have germinated or not, I was thinking of using the PT instead. Once I have seedlings, then plant them into the soil? Thanks again everyone! Any new pics of your seedlings Max? Jay |
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12-Apr-2005
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Albino Squirrel
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Hey Jay!
I just put my JBP seeds in C-I-L Tropical Plant soil... What I use most of the time for indoor plants. They're in mini greenhouses under a desk light in the first picture, and the youngest under a fluo in the second picture. So I don't know if it would work as well in towels... I just put them already in tropical plant soil (I know it's not tropical plants, but it seems they don't argue yet about it). As for lighting I guess the best is to put them outdoor when possible... Else, there are threads on lighting and they say you better get fluos made for plant growing... I saw many in different stores. So far, 8 on 37 germinated. And at first, they grow fast!!! Max
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12-Apr-2005
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bonsaiTALK Neophyte
Join Date: Mar-2005
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Way to go! *thumbs up*, looking good
 So, from the time that you planted them in the C-I-L, until now, how long would you say it's taken for the seeds to get where they are? I have a small bag of Scotts potting mix with ferts 0.07-0.01-0.03. It's also got sphagnum peat and perlite to provide drainage. As for the lighting, I know you said to use fluorescents. How many watts are you using? What about the Kelvin temp? (6500K?). I have a small 24" single lamp, putting out 15W with a Kelvin temp of 6500K. When you first planted your JBP seeds, did you leave the lights off until they germinated? Sorry for all the questions Max. But your the go-to-guy right now as you started out with the same kit as I have (just haven't started yet! lol). Thanks and keep us posted! Jay |
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12-Apr-2005
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Albino Squirrel
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For the time it took to look like they do, I searched for the receipt and I found I bought them March 18 or 25 (probably 18 ). I sown 10 of them the same day I bought them. The tallest is almost 4 iches long from soil to the highest tip. That's small but not too bad for babies.
As for the lighting, my fluo is a cool white 15W 14 inches. But at the time I bought it I didn't remembered if it was better to use cold or warm or what. And since then I noticed there were fluos especially made for plants growing in many stores. The next time I'll use them. But lighting is almost an art itself... Some say use one fluo, some other say use no less than two, because it doesn't give much light, other say put one near the plant and the other apart as if it were the sun... Sure thing, if you use fluos, put them near enough and if you use incandescent lights put them far enough... else your plants will, in the first case miss light, in the second get dried up or burned. In my case, I don't bother too much about lighting, I just put lights on my mini greenhouses so that they don't miss light and get enough heat from lights. That's why I let the lights opened when there's no plant yet under them. At first I only use them as heat producers... You know, some mini greenhouses come with electric heat elements under them. If you want more information about lighting, you can visit the thread where I first asked about it : http://forum.bonsaitalk.com/showthread.php?t=10765 . If I remember well, the link Brian posted was very informative. Oh, and I have no idea how many kelvins my lights are... :S No problem with your questions, it helps me remember things I wouldn't otherwise and search for some new! Max
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Hi Jay, There are many soil mediums available for germinating seeds in. These range from seed compost, to sand, vermiculite and perlite, although essentially anything that will hold moisture enough for the seeds to imbibe water will suffice. I use vermiculite to germinate seeds, as opposed to seed composts. The reason being is that vermiculite and perlite are sterile, and as such, offer less risk of seeds not germinating through fungus and mildew. Also, it holds water much better and will not become boggy if over watered, unlike compost. A lot of tree seeds either benefit from, or will not germinate unless they have been stratified. Basically there are two ways you can do this. Firstly, sow your seeds in late autumn and let nature chill them over the winter months. Alternatively, you can do this in a controlled manner by chilling the seeds in your refrigerator. Place the seeds in a small container and pour and soak for 24 -48 hours. Then place the seeds in a polythene zip bag, with some damp vermiculite. Poke a few holes in the bag to allow the air to circulate. Leave for 4-8 weeks depending on tree specie (some may require even longer). When you are ready to sow in the spring, plant the seeds in seed trays and wait. With any luck, you will have seeds germinating within a few days. Its a good idea to apply some fungicide to the soil medium, so that the seeds aren't damaged by dampening off disease. You don't need any special lighting. Putting them outside for the spring sunshine will be the best bet. If the seeds dont germinate, don't give up on them! Last year I planted 10 Zelkova Serrata seeds, and was a bit peeved when only 2 germinated. Last week, I noticed that in the pot where I have one of the 1 year old saplings, 7 more seeds have germinated. Although it took over a year, 9 out of 10 isn't too bad  All the best, Aaron |
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