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30-May-2002
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Should I plant it?
I have had my quince for a few months and it has been in the same 10 gallon pot that I got it in. I am just going to give it a year or so of growth before I start to get thinking about what needs to be done. I have noticed lately that when I water it, the water goes out the bottom in literally less than one second, and not much is retained. A few leaves appear to be [i:f56a344fa4]slightly[/i:f56a344fa4] wilted in the ends and some of the growth that was inside the pot from the nursery (some moss, clover, and what appears to be two Quince seedlings) have started to wilt quite a bit.
Would it be wise to just plant it in the ground for the next year instead of keeping it in this pot? Thanks! |
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30-May-2002
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Bonsai Shiva - Member Emeritus
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Re: Should I plant it?
Hey,
I would plant that sucker in the ground NOW. It sounds like a classic case of root-bound. I know it's late in the year for re-potting, but here's a way to minimize the shock. I've done this in the middle of winter when a pot got broken. Dig a hole in the ground as close to the size of the pot. Use the pot to test it. Next, lift the tree gently out of the pot by the bottom of the trunk. If it is root bound, it should lift out in one large mass. Then place it into the hole, minus the pot. Fill in the gap between the root mass and ground with some potting soil. Water well, add some super-thrive to the water if you have it. keep it well-watered, and I'll bet it perks right up. Next spring, it should be healthy enough for a true transplanting. If it barely makes it through the year, give it another year. Let it thrive first before you shock it again. Capt. Jack |
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Re: Should I plant it?
Dear Shamb,
What are your plans for this piece? Do you need to thicken the trunk? Does it need alot of development, branches, twigs ? Is it in full sun now? What is the soil like? Can you post a picture? Something doesnt add up. Give more details please!---B
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30-May-2002
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Re: Should I plant it?
I don't have an updated pic right now, but if you do a search under quince you'll find a few pics of it when I got it.
It has been getting full sun for the past week or two and the soil isn't the nices stuff. It is difficult to poke your finger into it and it is almost tough. I want to thicken the trunk as much as possible and also devolop branches. |
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30-May-2002
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Re: Should I plant it?
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I must be feeling argumentive today. I keep posting all these disagreements with other folks' advice. Sorry in advance! That said, two issues: 1. Root bound and fast drainage don't usually go hand in hand for me. 2. If you pop a rootbound plant out of a pot and drop it straight into the ground, you're likely to end up with plant choking itself to death with its roots, sitting in a hole in the ground. That is, if the plant is badly rootbound, roots are unlikely to move quickly into the surrounding soil after you drop it into the ground. And if they don't do that, what's the point of moving it at all? Cantankerously yours, Old Mister
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30-May-2002
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bonsaiTALK Master Craftsman
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Re: Should I plant it?
I think it's probably rootbound. What happens sometimes is that the roots make a compact mass that is hard for water to penetrate so when you water it just drains down the sides and out the bottom without really getting any water to the inner roots.
If you want to plant this in the ground I'd take a pruning saw and saw off an inch of the roots all the way around and off the bottom. Tony |
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30-May-2002
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Re: Should I plant it?
Shambhala:It is imposible to give good advice with out knowing some facts so here goes.
1. What is your weather like, temprature and what do you expect in the next month. 2. Have you removed the tree from the pot to see what really is going on..is it root bound, soil missing, or other problem. 3. If it looks like it may be too risky to cut roots and plant you may possibly put pot and all down into a five gallon bucket or larger if necessary and give this quince a weekly soaking to hold over to spring conditions...don't soak it for a week just soak it for about 20 minnets once weekly. 4. If you give us more detailed information I am shure someone will give you better advice. ripsgreentree
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30-May-2002
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Re: Should I plant it?
Ah, now I see how I rootbound plant could appear to be draining fast - thanks for explaining, Tony.
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Re: Should I plant it?
What do you think about soaking it for an hour or so before planting to get some juice in the roots?
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31-May-2002
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Re: Should I plant it?
[i:94a85f1174]1. What is your weather like, temprature and what do you expect in the next month.
[/i:94a85f1174] It is 23 degrees (73 F) right now with 69% relative humidity. It is expected to rain a bit in the next few days. It should maintain the temperature throughout the month, though I would expect hotter days. [i:94a85f1174]2. Have you removed the tree from the pot to see what really is going on..is it root bound, soil missing, or other problem.[/i:94a85f1174] I just took it out about 2 minutes ago. On the surface of the soil you can see some long thin fibrous roots, and throughout the sides you can see some as well. However, there is a VERY large accumulation of roots on the bottom sides of the container, which probably would explain the lack of absorption. I am new at this, so root bound is over my head  Although I assume it means the clumping of roots in certain areas, which would be a description for this tree. Would planting it in one of those wooden boxes that everyone has said works wonders on root development be a better alternative? |
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