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Old 10-May-2005   #11
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If you grow a tree from seed in a bonsai pot, you had better be prepared to let it grow for a very long time before you would have the characteristics that make a good bonsai ie: tapering trunk, aged bark, fully ramified branches.
How old are you now?

Let me offer this as an alternative: There is a very experienced member of my club who has been growing bonsai for almost as many years as I have been alive. He delights in growing from seed, cuttings, and collecting. He is enormously succesful with smaller bonsai. He often brings displays of chinese elm shohins 3, 4, 5 inches that he has grown from root cuttings. But he grows these out in starter pots before moving them into bonsai pots for display. By growing them in a shallow large area pot, his young trees are able to take advantage of the soil area, and grow quicker than if they were in a bonsai pot.

As far as trunk chopping goes, it is essential in bonsai, you can't really avoid it. Take for example, lets say you go to your local nusery and buy a Japanese maple whip for $14 or so. You also get one of those rectanglar cheap blue pots. Lets say it is a 4"x6" pot. You plant your maple in it, and it begins to grow. As most young whips do, it puts on a lot of top growth. By the following year you have a 28 or 30 inch pencil thin seedling with lots of small branches on the trunk. It has grown almost, but not perfectly straight. What will you do with it now? It has no taper, lots of branches it has a 60 to 1 trunk height to width ratio. What style will you plan for this?

Just some food for thought. read more about growing bonsai here :
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Old 12-May-2005   #12
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Bonsai Trunk

Id like all my trees to have a straight trunk , how do I do this , what is taper ?
If the trunk is still very small can I force it to be straight .
Thank you very much for your anwsers.
And Ill listen to your advice , ill put my trees in the ground , except one or two , If im 22 now , when do you think , my chinese elm , japanese blck pine and Maple will be mature ? if I let them in a small pot always , whitout trunk reduction ?
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Taper means that the trunk is thicker at the bottom where the roots are, and gets narrow as it goes up to the top. (The top is called the apex)

People like trunks to taper because then they look like old trees. Go look at some old trees and see how they are thicker at the bottom....also it gives the illusion that the tree is taller than it is. Like standing on the sidewalk and looking straight up at a skyscraper....it looks like it gets narrower at the top, right? That's what you want.

It would take a really long time for your trees to get nice thick trunks in a small pot, because they will grow very slowly. You can use bigger pots or growing boxes or pond pots, search the forum archives for words like "growing box". You can read and learn for yourself what you would like to do.

So far, many of my trees have gone from nice little bonsai pots, to bigger one gallon pots, to the ground. Their homes are getting bigger, but so are their trunks! And they grow so much better. I gave up the idea that they are bonsai NOW because they aren't. Just because they are in a bonsai pot, doesn't make them a bonsai. The bonsai pot is the **last** thing you worry about because when you finally get the tree you want, with the right thickness and good branches and nice leaves, then finally you choose the right bonsai pot, like framing a picture.

It's hard to think this way, but everyone does it finally. If you want to grow good, strong, impressive trees then you will finally do it too.

Or maybe you will be in your 40's before you have great trees. Why wait so long?

Good luck, and keep learning!!

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