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Old 23-Dec-2005   #1
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hi everyone, new to bonsai's

second time posting this because i was logged out the first time when i tried to submit the thing, so here we go again. second time around.

i live in vancouver, canada where it's quite rainy and can get a bit chilly. the current temperature is 10 degrees with rain.

i purchased a japanese juniper yesterday and i a want to keep the little guy in the best shape and let him thrive the best i can.

i want to put him in out of commision for the winter but i've read that if it was purcahsed during the winter, to keep it in a cold place indoors rather then outdoors due to the drastic temperature change.

i don't have very many places to put him outside and i'm afraid someone can just off and take run away with it. i can put him in a metal toolshed or under the stairs with the lawnmower and stuff. both places will have minimal to no light for it. i can also keep it outside by the door under a coffee table. i also have a fairly cold room i can put it in as well.

what are the temperature ranges that they can stay in and if i put it outside how do i protect the roots from freezing?

i'm sure i had more to this but at this point i just cant remember, after free hand typing everything over again.

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Old 25-Dec-2005   #2
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Old 25-Dec-2005   #3
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Hey Trip, nice little tree. But it's Christmas dude. I think most of the posters here have family. Don't worry. Someone will come on and comment. I have no experience with the winters you have, so I'll let someone else suggest what you should do. Don't forget to check the search function. It's quite possible someone has asked a very similar question in the past.
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Old 26-Dec-2005   #4
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sorry, i meant that i'll post on another forum as well as this for a response.

i've removed the tree from outside, which it has been sitting for the last day and half and am putting it in the cold room upstairs.
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I tried to write a big long reply to this earlier but lost it,...due to my own stupidity,...any how the jist was this ...junips love sun ,be carefull with it inside...and also welcome to bonsai, and to bonsaitalk,...and that you are very fortuante to have such a site as this one in particullar,...this site is home to some of the advice givingest bunch of bonsai-bonkers blokes you're likely to ever meet. And some of them are evn pretty good artists too,...just kidding Red and Dale. These are people are also quite bright and able to figure out things, for the most part,...and some will even help you with things that they have answered questions about many many many many many MANY times. So with the exception of BrianBay9, who is a total BULLY and the stingiest S.O.B. ya ever wanna meet,...every one else here is GREAT! Just kidding Brian,you know I love ya man. Jeremy M.C.
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Not THAT kinda love Bri, I'm a happily married man,.............YES to a WOMAN !?! LOL
So straight that if I were any MORE straight ,I wouldn't be able to walk.but I am open minded Dale so I don't hear about how this statement offends you. LMFAO
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Hi Trip! Posting right around a holiday will usually just teach you patience. And many people who browse through here either don't know the answer either, or don't know enough about your specific situation to help.

I sure can't answer you because I live where there is no frost, but someone else will soon. Until then, you can read through this thread.

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And remember, too, that the little juniper probably just left a greenhouse somewhere so it isn't used to winter temps. Trees are slower to respond to changes than we are, and the tree would probably need to be given time to acclimate.

First off, take those rocks off the top. They aren't helpful for the tree to grow. If they are glued on, that's going to prevent water from getting to the roots and oxygen also.

Another point to consider is that these little junipers are often just cuttings, not well rooted, when they are sold in massive quantities to the public. They have not been treated or grown in a way that makes them healthy. The soil is very likely poor and slow draining, the roots may be unestablished, and the tree could be on it's way to bonsai heaven before anyone can tell. (That's often why they use junipers.... like Christmas trees, they stay green for a long time before they show signs of problems)

If your little tree doesn't make it (and it's a gamble) but you want to learn about bonsai, stick around and we will help you to choose good stock, train it, keep it healthy, and enjoy a very relaxing and rewarding hobby!! Besides making some wonderful friends.

Many of us started with these junipers, and we now have serious collections of trees in training....

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i purchased my juniper from a man with a pretty well known store w/6 generations of bonsai passed down his family. I removed the giant rock that it was wrapped around and I guess i will remove the gravel as well. i'll post back in a few. thanks guys
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It is possible that the tree has not 'just left a greenhouse', but has been kept outdoors as it should have been. Many responders (here and on other forums) assume the worst care conditions when it comes to posts by newbies, and their assumptions are usually accurate. It sounds like you can just ask the grower in what conditions the juniper has been grown regarding acclimation to the cold. You may be better off than you think.
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