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Need tons of help
I am brand new to bonsai growing and I just want to know if someone could please tell me how to grow a Crab Apple tree from start to finish and how long it would take too start flowering and/or bearing fruit.Please help.
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If you have access to the publication Bonsai International there have been a number of articles about this subject over the years. OK, maybe you don't. Here is the real problem getting material that will flower in the least amount of time. This rules out growing from seed. I have a Crab Apple I have grown from seed that is going on twenty years old and has never flowered. This is common with this tree. So your best resource is to learn how to grow them from cuttings and take cuttings from trees in your area that are good bloomers. Once you do that successfully then you can start worrying about what to do next. A cutting will take at least two years before you can do anything much more than keeping it watered and free from a host of fungal and insect problems. As to the start to finish issue, that's asking a lot of anyone. This is book length material complete with visual instructions.
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2-Mar-2008
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Check the articles at Evergreen Gardenworks. Brent does discuss growing Crabs.
http://www.evergreengardenworks.com/articles.htm There are also many other very good articles there. |
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I have not read this article but the point remains; you can grow them from seed easy enough but getting them to bloom is another issue, even the Japanese sources will tell you that. If Brent has a different take I will jump on that band wagon, I love Crab Apples. Edit: Update. I just read Brents article and he does not touch on seed cultivation but focuses on cuttings, air layers and grafts.
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A search will show that Brent has responded to such requests many times.
I have responded also, saying that my take on seedling crabs is less bleak than Brent's, provided you find the right seed source. But with random crabspple seeds he's 100% right. With carefully selected crabapple seeds, with known pedigrees, things are a little better. But cuttings and air layering are the way to go, unless you are experimenting. I'd recomend air layering if you have access to an acceptable crab apple tree. It saves years, and the results are more predictable. Brent has good rooted cuttings, as do a few others. One can also go to a nursery and get a crab apple tree. But not all crab apple varieties are equal in twig size, leaf size, fruit size, flower size. And you can substitute the word color for the word size in the previous sentense. Or shape, for that matter. As say you are starting from scratch, you have a lot to learn about bonsai. If you want to find a good seed source, you have doubled what you need to learn. Do what most every experienced bonsai grower does, start with a rooted cutting of a variety that has been tried repeatedly with good results. I have heard no one regret doing that.
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