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To Late To Sow Seeds In So Cal?

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Old 14-Aug-2004   #1
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To Late To Sow Seeds In So Cal?

Hey guys, I was wondering if it was to late to sow seeds here in so cal.? it is quite hot I was going to plant a japanese maple seed set and a red cedar and black pine seed set? is it too late for them to germinate?
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As long as you haven't stratified them, you can plant them in the fall and they'll germinate next spring, just like seeds that fall off a tree naturally.
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okay, thanks washout
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I think you got some time, but it would be better to plant them in the spring.


This morning I just had some Safron I planted a couple weeks ago pop out of the ground.




Almost forgot, there has been a lot of talk about El Nino southern occulation lately. We could have a wet winter, which also means it's gonna be a warm winter as well. With El Nino comin' our way we will not see any of those cold Alaskan storms.

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does that mean a lnger growing season? how do you care for your trees in the winter? we really dont have winds or frosty temps herre in so cal. it seems like basic protection from wind and maybe a small wind shield would be all I need?
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Even though you don't have freezing temps there you'ld still want the seeds to sprout in the spring. This time of year the days are getting shorter and trees take note of this. If they don't go dormant they will certainly slow down for the fall/winter season. Ideally you want the seeds to sprout in spring when the days are progessively getting warmer and longer. That tells the seedling to grow full outright because it has a full growing season before it has to deal with winter and it gives it plenty of time to build up reserves for the slow/dormant period.

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Where in Southern California are we talking about specifically - Which USDA zone, Sorry I couldn't pin down San Dimas if that's where you're growing...

In some areas of Southern California there really isn't any dormant period unless you consider a balmy 55 degrees F wintertime.

So, it may not make any difference when you sow them. On the other hand - growing Japanese maples might be a problem regardless of when they are sown.

It's really only your time you're talking about. Considering the cost of the seed is pretty small.

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Here in the Ozarks, I put the seeds in the ground as soon as I collect them. I've had very good results. Of course, all the seeds I've started, I collected within 10 miles of my house.

It's always been my belief that keeping seeds in the warm dry interior of my house would do them nothing but harm. When I was in California I did the same thing. Many seeds of natives there want to germinate during the Winter Rainy Season. This is certainly true of all the California Oaks, which grow during the Winter and pretty well go dormant in the Summer. I feel like the trees know best and it's best to just put the seeds in the ground when I get them and let them figure out when to sprout.

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San Dimas is inland by Pomona, etc. Not effected by the marine drift that much. Close to the footh ills or foot hills as some pronounce it.

I am of the mind in this area to plant right away. I have seen good germination at this time and overwintering is not a big concern in your area.

Now you have advices both wait and plant now... I guess its back to you B.adair. Good luck and report back if you would and let us know how they did.
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okay I decided I am going to sow the seeds I chose to buy (something that is more conifer, I really like the literati style maybe a maple or 2) and just sow them let them choose there preference to sprout. if the don't sprout soon then they'll have there natural stratification over winter which is good. I'll post back and let u know. thanks guys
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