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Old 23-Apr-2004   #11
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Those are procumbens, and I wouldn't put these in anything smaller then 1 gallon nursey cans. I wouldn't even worry about the roots for at least another year. These junipers grow such fiberous root systems that they can be cut back anytime. Just get them into a pot and let em' rip.

BTW, just as Matt said, plant these at some angles as they leave the soil for interest. Junipers are almost always styled informal, so why not get the trunk started right from the git-go.

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Old 23-Apr-2004   #12
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Al,
I had already put them in small pots before I read your post. I did switch two of them to much larger pots just to see the difference in growth. Besides, soil components are so expensive here. I couldn't afford to put them all in gallon containers this year. There are 18 of them and I have to pay $40 for 5 gal of lava or Turface and drive three hours one way for the privilege. I did plant some at angle too.

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I bought these trees mostly for horticultural education. I don't really expect them to ever be anything but learning tools. But you never know. Ten years isn't so long.

Thanks again to everyone for your most helpful advice!
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Old 25-Apr-2004   #13
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When it comes to bulk soil, you guys are making this way too hard!

Get your self a large bag of black magic repotting soil and mix it 50/50 with play sand from Home Depot or Lowes. This makes a well draining soil and is cheap to make. It will work fine for all junipers and allowing them to size up. In fact when it is all said and done, you may not use anything but this mixture in the future.

If you decide that in the show pot you want something a little faster draining, then you can use the more expensive componet rich soils for display. But growing in cans, go the cheapest, nurserys have been doing it for years.

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Al,
Will this mix for black pine seedlings?
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Thanks Al,
I've got a lot to learn and I appreciate your advice. I'll give that mix a try. Would a coarser sand/grit work as well or better?
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This stuff would work fine for any thing growing in a larger container, and needing larger amounts of soil cheaply. I use the play sand because it comes washed. You can use whatever you feel is best in the sand dept. as long as it's in there. I helps keep the soil friable. If you want to buy the sand bulk, just call your local rock merchant and order a couple tons. Then you could really make some bulk soil.

Most nurserys just order a few tons of humas and a few tons of sand and mix it together to do all the repotting in the nurseries. I just wish they did it more often. Then again, how would you get those 2" trunks on the one gallon junipers forgotton in the corner

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(edit) Don't get locked in to the black majic thing either. Use super soil, kellogs amendments ie; topper, or amend, or wall mart brand potting soil, or whatever is cheapest. All this stuff is is composted bark and sawdust and sometimes sewer farm sludges that have been treated. Good stuff though! I make good soil in bulk and sell it to a bonsai nursery, but for growing out I just use this
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