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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
Join Date: Nov-2002
Location: Lancaster
Country: United States of America
USDA Zone: 6a Lancaster PA
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Growing Box Wood Type
Hello All,
I recently have gotten lucky, and got my hands on a group of 25 3 month old seedlings. Well I have been dying to put together a forest planting, and with that amount of seedlings I guess now is a good time to start one. (cut n grow method of course) I know it will take a considerably decent amount of time to train these seedlings into anything worth working with, but I really would love to give them a good start (boost), so I figured I would plant them in a larger (but semi shallow) growing box. My question is what type of lumber would be the best for building this container? Is it better to use treated or untreated lumber? David J....
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5000-year-old cypress planks from the tombs of the pharoahs, of course If you can't get that, use whatever is handy. Cypress, cedar and redwood are long lasting and insect resistant. If you use something like pine or fir it will apart in two seasons, but that could be long enough? Adding some standoff feet will make it last a bit longer. It really depends on how much your time is worth vs. the cost & pain of making new boxes. Pressure treated lumber is getting hard to find in some states. There is a phaseout in the works as they shift to a new formulation. http://www.americanramp.com/Origina...p_t_lumber.html Regards, Matt
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David,
You could buy some of that composite decking board and use it. It would last forever. John |
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I use redwood...
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Ill post a follow up question to this thread.
Once the wooden frame is complete, what is best to be used for the bottom of the box ? Last edited by Camay123 : 15-Jul-2003 at 08:49 PM. |
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I use slats, usually the same thickness and twice the width of the sides, but my boxes are shallow. I then run drainage screen across the slat openings, spaced about 3/8 apart, or across the entire width of smaller boxes.
I have seen other people stretch hardware cloth (a galvanized screen - much stiffer than window screen and with larger holes) across the entire bottom of a wooden frame to make a box, and staple it in place. One important thing is to add some spacer feet to the four corners of the box to hold it up so you get some drainage and ventilation or the box or bench it rests on will begin to decay more rapidly. I grew some nice mushrooms before I figured this out. You can use four short blocks in the corners or two long bars on along the sides that are more structural supports: ![]() Regards, Matt
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Is there an article out there on how to build growing boxes? I would use one primarily for transferring garden nursery stock plants that are in 1-5 gallon pots.
I was just wondering what the ideal depth of the box should be and what type of potting media should I use. Matt, the boxes in your picture look rather shallow. Are those used for seedlings/cuttings or do use it for larger plants as well? Thanks, Gerald |
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That isn't my box (or cat) but that particular box is for acclimating a large bonsai to a tray prior to planting.
Training boxes are made in every conceivable size for different purposes. Larger, deeper boxes for the recovery of collected specimens, boxes of medium depth for maximizing growth, and shallow boxes for trees with shallow, radial root systems. Regards, Matt
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Join Date: Feb-2004
Location: Victoria
Country: Australia
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i use fence pailings for the bottom and treated pine for the sides seems to work fine.
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I built some grow-boxes from Southern Yellow Pine and they are holding together just fine after their first season. My own experience has been that grow boxes made from plastic wash basins, 10 to 16 quarts in size, are cheaper, easier to make and work just as well. I buy them, drill several 3/4" holes in the bottoms of each using a simple wood-working bit and they are ready to go. They are lighter, easier to handle and stack and in all ways work just as well as grow boxes fabricated from lumber. If I had alot of scrap lumber of the right size, I'm sure I'd use it, but otherwise, I prefer plastic wash basins, widely available from WalMart or the discunt stores in our area.
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