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11-May-2008	#1
lawry bonsaiTALK Neophyte Join Date: May-2008 Location: nsw Country: australia Posts: 6	down under help Hi When is the best time to cut the tap root on tube stock ?I live in country nsw australia with the nearest bonsai nursery six hours away.There is a forestry nursery in town with ninety percent of the stock in tubes,mainly australian natives. Thankyou justin

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11-May-2008	#2
kcpoole bonsaiTALK Master Craftsman Join Date: May-2006 Location: Sydney Country: Australia Posts: 805	Woo hoo another Aussie :-) Welcome Jason There are a few of here looking into Developing Aussie Native Bonsais so you will be right at home. As for the Taproot I have just put about 7 natives from tubestock in the ground a month ago to develop, and I have taken the taproot off each of them. They are all looking like they are surviving OK but will not reallly put on new growth until spring Late autumn or early spring I reckon Ken __________________ When engineers work out how to make something Idiot proof, humanity invents a better Idiot

11-May-2008	#3
lawry bonsaiTALK Neophyte Join Date: May-2008 Location: nsw Country: australia Posts: 6	Hi ken Thanks for the quick response.What soil mix is best to put the stock in ?Do you seal the cut with hormone powder ? cheers justin. p.s is bonsai focus mag worth the money?

11-May-2008	#4
soltan Wabi and Sabi student Join Date: Apr-2005 Country: australia USDA Zone: 8-9? AHS Heat Zone: ? Posts: 564	Hi Justin I also live in outback NSW Parkes to be specific. We have a forestry nursery in the next town from here Forbes and it is a great source of young natives. Aussie natives have different considerations than other trees. Root pruning and repotting with most trees is done in the dormant period of the tree. This can be hard to pick with Aussie natives. It is generally considerd to be in the middle of summer but can be many times a year. We can also manipulate the dormant period at any time of year by various techniques such as defoliation. It has been found that with young trees we can get away with alot more? We are still in the infancy of Aussie native bonsai cultivation and it is a huge subject. Try this thread From our Native Master(He hates me calling him that) for more info http://forum.bonsaitalk.com/f83/euc...onsai-9245.html I think Fly has some great info on the last page of article about native seedlings. __________________ GROW DAMIT! BRETT AUSTRALIA ZONE 8-9?

11-May-2008	#5
kcpoole bonsaiTALK Master Craftsman Join Date: May-2006 Location: Sydney Country: Australia Posts: 805	When I cut the taproot I do not use anything to promote other roots. My seedlings had other fine radial roots that I left on the tree when I planted it. For soils for Natives, I just use my standard Bonsai Mix that I buy from Ray Nesci. I am looking at using total inorganic soils for all my trees, but have only just started out on this journey of discovery. I have never read Bonsai Focus so cannot comment. Ken ps read all the posts from FlyBri and Pup re info on Aussie Natives. they are the most prolific poster here on these topics and as Soltan mentioned. Fly is our Reluctant Guru. (he has certainly given more info here on aussie natives that I have seen anywhere else). __________________ When engineers work out how to make something Idiot proof, humanity invents a better Idiot Last edited by kcpoole : 11-May-2008 at 09:50 AM.

12-May-2008	#6
lawry bonsaiTALK Neophyte Join Date: May-2008 Location: nsw Country: australia Posts: 6	Hi guys Many thanks for the help.Great web site.Only found it a couple of days ago.Good to see a few aussies here.Quick question who do you think has the best bonsai nursery in nsw? Thanks again justin

12-May-2008	#7
JayC bonsaiTALK Master Join Date: Sep-2006 Location: Sydney Country: Australia Posts: 366	Hi Justin! Another aussie here! And i also think this site is great Which nursery is best is a very broad question. Do you mean for mature stock, partially trained, fully trained, starters, seedlings or other? Some nurseries sell just plants, others sell pots, soils, tools and books. I now get most of my stock from Ray Nesci. Ray owns a nursery out at 26 Sagars road, Dural. This nursery sells pots, soil, tools, books, stands and many many trees or all different types, ages and training levels. All his stock is at a very good price (IMHO) and the people there are very glad to help you out. Oh and trust your map when your going there, just when you think your on some tiny little road with only farms around, you can see a sign. Go up the driveway and be amazed at the stuff he has for sale JayC

12-May-2008	#8
soltan Wabi and Sabi student Join Date: Apr-2005 Country: australia USDA Zone: 8-9? AHS Heat Zone: ? Posts: 564	I remember that first Drive to Ray's JC. The antisipation was killing me mixed with constant looks at the road map. Surley I havn't made another rong turn. Then that sign pops out of nowere. Yes I'm here LOL And I was not disapionted when I enterd the place. I think Bonsai Enviroment is well worth a look. I find Bonsai south has more advanced starters and are generaly priced acordingly. I am very happy with my one purchase there. If you asked witch State has the best bonsai nurseries that would be easy. NSW __________________ GROW DAMIT! BRETT AUSTRALIA ZONE 8-9?

12-May-2008	#9
lawry bonsaiTALK Neophyte Join Date: May-2008 Location: nsw Country: australia Posts: 6	hi guys Sorry jayc the question was a bit genral.I have been to rays nursery and thought it was great.But unfortunatley the only time i get there is on a family holiday and my wife does not think sitting in the car at rays nursery for four hours is much of a holiday.I thought rays nursery would be hard to beat for most things.Only been to a couple Koreshoffs when opened and imperial bonsai nursery. cheers justin

12-May-2008

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JayC

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Originally Posted by soltan

I remember that first Drive to Ray's JC.

The antisipation was killing me mixed with constant looks at the road map. Surley I havn't made another rong turn. Then that sign pops out of nowere.
Yes I'm here LOL
And I was not disapionted when I enterd the place.

I think Bonsai Enviroment is well worth a look. I find Bonsai south has more advanced starters and are generaly priced acordingly. I am very happy with my one purchase there.

If you asked witch State has the best bonsai nurseries that would be easy. NSW

Yes Solt, that first time was a killer for me too, no patients.

I find that Bonsai Environment has great cheap pots. Even very large pots for a good price. I managed to pick up "bonsai with Australian natives" by the koreshoffs there for only $15 which i was happy about too. I only spent 20 minutes there as i was on a tight schedule, but the stock didn't seem as cheap as Ray's. and there definitely wasn't a variety as broad as his either.

Megummi Bennett (Imperial Bonsai Nursery) own some amazing trees! Its worth going there if only to see her collection (although it is through mesh fences as you would have noticed). The stock their is slightly more expensive as they don't have space to grow most of their stock, and thus have to buy and re-sell.

I will always miss the Koreshoffs though. Their nursery was small, but it had some excellent stock, and their soil mix cant be matched. Very sad that they have gone.

Oh and Justin, you might need a new wife......I'm sorry, but bonsai is a severe addiction and anybody that tries to stand in the way gets hurt. Its very sad, its already starting in me.

JayC

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