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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
Join Date: Nov-2007
Country: South Africa
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Azalea - are these worth buying?
I was looking at Azaleas at a local nursery today and saw two trees with bases which looked like they might have potential.
Tree 1 Base looks nice for the first couple of inches, then the trunk goes dead straight for about a foot with no growth (shown here attached to a wooden pole). Could I cut it down to the top of the knob and grown a new trunk and branches or would I kill it if I did so? I'm assuming this is natural growth and not a graft, but I don't really know as I have no experience with Azaleas. If I cut it down, what is the right time of year to do it? In South Africa we are just going into winter. Last edited by GinaRothfels : 25-Apr-2008 at 01:39 PM. |
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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
Join Date: Nov-2007
Country: South Africa
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Tree 2
This would be a twin trunk and would require much less cutting back than tree 1. I have not seen the flowers on this tree and the foliage seems less attractive than tree 1. Also I don't know if I want to do a twin trunk, but I'm not sure. |
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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
Join Date: Nov-2007
Country: South Africa
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I am only looking to buy one tree and don't know which of these to buy, if either. I can keep looking if these don't have potential, but am interested to know whether such a drastic trunk chop is possible on an Azalea in case I see something better when I am far from home and don't have the opportunity to think and go back later.
Sorry, but these are the only photos I have of these trees as it was close to closing time and the light was not good. |
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bonsaiTALK Master
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Well, given what I can see, I like tree 2 best.However, some things to consider. One is this a large leaf azalea, like Formosa? Sometimes they don't leaf reduce well. Doesn't mean it can't make a handsome bonsai, but you may want to consider that for proportion in chopping back the trunk.
Where I live in the southern U. S. we cut overgrown in-ground azaleas back to the trunk to tidy them up a bit. They come back from the trunks like gangbusters usually. I think it's worth a try. Perhaps plantit in the ground for a season and go ahead and cut bck the trunk to where you wnat it whileit is dormant. Be sure to seal the wound.
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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
Join Date: Nov-2007
Country: South Africa
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I didn't spend that much time looking as it was quite late, but I think the leaves on both of these were smaller than most of the others.
I'm not too keen to plant potential bonsai in the ground as we have a garden service that would be likely to mess with my tree but would be happy to plant it in a biggish pot or colander. Obviously they are not dormant yet as there were flowers on most of the trees. How long would it take before I could cut them back if I decided to do so? |
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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
Join Date: May-2004
Location: Los Angeles
Country: United States
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Random question for Azalea growers. Do azaleas do well as root cuttings? I have two in the ground that I will probably need to dig up next year and I just wonder if I would be able to get some cuttings from the root trimming I plan to do when I get them up.
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Bonsai Master, in my mind
Join Date: Feb-2005
Location: Back Home in Northern California
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G'day Gina...
Could give better advice with "entire tree" pictures... However...without seeing them up close and personal...I think you can do better... Pat
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
Join Date: Sep-2003
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Pat's right. Could do better.
The thing that concerns me is that they look like "Standard" azaleas - which implies they are grafts onto rootstock of over types. I'm not particularly happy with either tree - but tree 2 has at least some interesting features.
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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
Join Date: Nov-2007
Country: South Africa
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Thanks for your advice.
Jeremy, that's what I was afraid of. I thought that knob on tree 1 looked suspiciously like a graft but I wasn't sure whether they did that with Azaleas. Seems that tree has been ruled out. I might have another look at tree 2, if it's still there on Tuesday. A friend advised me to buy a pot with a few thin Azaleas in it and move them into separate pots. At least with those I'd know they weren't grafted. But would it take forever for them to thicken? I'm not very confident on making a choice otherwise. Some of the nurseries have so many trees it's impossible to even examine them properly. |
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