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13-Apr-2003
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bonsaiTALK Neophyte
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Chinese Elm advice needed for a complete noob :) (with photos)
Hey everyone, firstly just like to say well done on a really nice friendly forum, and on the masterpiece trees that ive seen in the galleries!
AFter being interested in bonsai since i went to chelsey flower show in london as a kid, i finally got around to getting one as a present. I believe its a chineese elm, ive had it for around a month. At first there was no noticable change, but recently it has started growing really fast, ( maybe as its just turned spring here in the uk) Ive kept it indoors most of the time by my window which is normally open, and on real sunny days ive put it in the garden to get some real sunlight. ( no direct sunlight comes through the window) I've been trimming it a little bit to remove the new growth that was really big, but im not sure what to do with it. Ive take some pictures, as you can hopefully tell there are a few things that are worrying me.. 1) some of the leaves have gone part yellow, kinda scortched. i think this could have been because of the heat from being indoor? should i remove these leaves? 2) there has been lots of growth over hte past week, and i can see lots of small green parts on the branches where it looks like more leaves are going to come out, should it be growing this much this fast? does it mean that its not trainned correctly? 3) the leaves on the new growth are allot bigger than the older leaves, sometimes twice as big, is this also due to mis trainning? 4) the trunk ends abruptly at the top, as if its been cut of dead. as trees in nature dont normally look like this, is it possible to start it growing again? or perhaps fork it off? Here are the pictures:     I hope they are ok and that i can get some advice on what route to take to making a superb bonsai, im really looking forward to developing it properly over time as my knowledge increases! Many thanks inadvance to everyone that replies  Gentio Last edited by Gentio : 14-Apr-2003 at 08:27 AM. |
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13-Apr-2003
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bonsaiTALK Neophyte
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Sorry, fixed the links
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13-Apr-2003
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Charles Bevan
 
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Thats a nice trunk, but it needs to be trimmed up and it would look great. I dont think there is much to worry about with those leaves. Like I said before, put it outside.
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13-Apr-2003
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bonsaiTALK Neophyte
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ok thanks for the advice,
i was worried about putting it outside because of the cold and large amounts of rain at the moment. I think i have a place to put it for a while outside which should give it some protection. i'll have a go at trimming it soon as well after some more research so does anyone else have any opinions or ideas about how i could train or grow this bonsai? id love it to be larger and more twisty, maybe windswept? ty Last edited by Gentio : 14-Apr-2003 at 11:16 AM. |
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14-Apr-2003
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bonsaiTALK Neophyte
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ARGH!!!
nows theres loads of little green bugs on some of the new leaves!!! what should i do!!! ?? Last edited by Gentio : 14-Apr-2003 at 03:51 PM. |
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14-Apr-2003
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Charles Bevan
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Get the bugs identified, then spray them with the propor pesticide. They might even be helpful bugs.
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14-Apr-2003
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bonsaiTALK Neophyte
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Yeah i talked to my dad who told me that they were green fly, and its ok just to wash or pick them off, which i have done.
Ill keep and eye on it and hopefully it should be fine, maybe putting it outside wasnt such a good idea! Thanks for ur reply G |
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15-Apr-2003
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You need to buy a couple books on training bonsai, if you have already done so. Basically, you can't get a taller tree unless you plant the tree in the garden and let it grow wild for several years. Once it is in a bonsai pot you've got what you are going to get. You also need to cut ALL the branches back to 2 or 3 leaves and then cut most of the branches off until you just have a few in places where you want them.
That's why you need a book. Personally I think the tree needs too much help to do it on line. I don't mean it isn't a good tree. It is. The trunk is great and there can be a great future for it. But you have bush on top now. As for (4) the progression it is already there. I've sort of outlined it below. That's the trunk in green and I don't think the tree should go much taller than what I've shown. Then you develop branches (in brown). Don't know if this helps but it is only the general idea. Earl |
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. It needs to be outside though.
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