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Old 12-Jun-2008   #41
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I actually found out what the dunk was about yesterday, without help from my wife

The trunk is dunked upside down in a 1:30 dilution of yellow lime sulphur in December, in order to prepare the tree for winter and kill any nasty thing trying to live in/on the trunk.

The pot is then tipped on one side to avoid too much of the solution getting on the soil and left to dry for 2 or 3 hours. Once dry, the tree is put in its winter quarters under cover.

I'll try to read other bits tonight

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Old 13-Jun-2008   #42
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Regarding some of your earlier sentiments on Kyosuki Gun's books. I'm pretty sure some of the illustrations you posted are featured in the Master's Series Juniper guide (there are illustrations by Gun at any rate). And I mostly just "look at the pictures."

For instance, I love Peter Adam's maples but I find his books and the descriptions of his methods a real chore to understand. When reading his books I'm always asking: "Peter, could you please just give us a few more pictures? please?" The process of reading Adam's books is predictably the same: after some considerable effort forming a concept-collage of words and abstractions I try to marry it to the one pic of the finished tree. The resultant mental picture is murky at best. Self-consciousness about my command of the English language sets in and I put the book down and read something easier like, well... anything.

I like pictures when dealing with visual/tactile operations.
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I got lucky today and won auctions on:
-Vol 1: kuromatsu
-Vol 4: shimpaku
-Vol 5: umemodoki and himeringo
-minibonsai in 3 years
-minibonsai tips and tricks

5 books to go and I have all the Kyosuke Gun books I know of
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Old 14-Jun-2008   #44
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I got lucky today and won auctions on:
-Vol 1: kuromatsu
-Vol 4: shimpaku
-Vol 5: umemodoki and himeringo
-minibonsai in 3 years
-minibonsai tips and tricks

5 books to go and I have all the Kyosuke Gun books I know of

Nice, let me know what you yhink of this one "-minibonsai tips and tricks" im thinking of adding that one to my collection.
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Old 18-Jul-2008   #45
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Any updates on where the English versions of Kyosuke Gun's books stand? I'd get the Japanese version, but I figured I'd wait for the English.
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As far as I know, and I haven't checked with Guy recently, the first volume has now been translated and is going through proofreading and pre-print. The original publication target of 2008 might slip by, but it should be out before end of Q1 2009. However, keep in mind that the discussion was on a French forum and I forgot to ask if that also covered the English edition.

With that in mind, and having perused a few volumes of the collection myself, I only see a limited added value to the translation. As I previously said, outside the first chapter, you don't need the translation. I'm starting to wonder if the first chapter is even useful for us as we are not in the same climate as the author and we also don't get the same products as the author.

For example, the author recommends a mixture of Aburakasu and water as a fertilizer in one of the books. After some research on the topic, I found that aburakasu is the leftover from canola oil preparation made with a specific variety of Canola not grown outside Japan (as far as I know). You may be able to find canola cakes in a cattle feed shop, it may work or it may not work. You could of course order Aburakasu from Japan but the shipping costs would be a multiple of the product costs.

Now it is possible that the translation effort also took care of finding alternative products but I have no idea at this point.

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Meushi,
Looks like there are at least 12 books......

Have the series
1. Black Pine
2. Japanese maple
3. Azalea
4. Shimpaku
5. Crabapple
6. Ume
7. Needle Juniper (tosho)
8. Trident Maple
9. Zelkova
10. Flowering Quince (Chojubai)

I also have the 3 years to a minibonsai book. Haven't yet seen tips and techniques.

Cheers,
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John,

there are actually 13 books if you count "one year in the development of a mini bonsai" which is a manga of sorts by the same author.

I should receive the books any day now, I chose the slowest delivery to save a bit more cash on the transaction. I'll order the missing ones (2, 3, 8 and 9) sometime next month to complete the collection.

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Hi Michael,
Thanks, the 13th one is a little harder to find, do you have an ISBN for it? When I have trolled the Japanese bookselling sites, I have yet to find it- but will be patient. Thank, John
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As far as I know, and I haven't checked with Guy recently, the first volume has now been translated and is going through proofreading and pre-print. The original publication target of 2008 might slip by, but it should be out before end of Q1 2009. However, keep in mind that the discussion was on a French forum and I forgot to ask if that also covered the English edition.

With that in mind, and having perused a few volumes of the collection myself, I only see a limited added value to the translation. As I previously said, outside the first chapter, you don't need the translation. I'm starting to wonder if the first chapter is even useful for us as we are not in the same climate as the author and we also don't get the same products as the author.

For example, the author recommends a mixture of Aburakasu and water as a fertilizer in one of the books. After some research on the topic, I found that aburakasu is the leftover from canola oil preparation made with a specific variety of Canola not grown outside Japan (as far as I know). You may be able to find canola cakes in a cattle feed shop, it may work or it may not work. You could of course order Aburakasu from Japan but the shipping costs would be a multiple of the product costs.

Now it is possible that the translation effort also took care of finding alternative products but I have no idea at this point.

Michael

Thanks for the info Michael. I think I have enough books covering soil, light, etc., but am interested in materials that cover how you go about styling material. The diagrams/pictures are pretty amazing - no translation needed. So, maybe I'll just go ahead and buy the Japanese set, since it sounds like otherwise that I'll be waiting for a while on the English translation.
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