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Old 3-Dec-2002   #1
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Advantages Of Unheated Garage Storage

Hi all... in the words of an old (OK realllly old) song, "Baby, it's colds outside"... I know our members in the northern mid-west may not think we get 'real' cold in the east but.... Last night was down to 18 F with a high today of the upper 20's. Tonight may get near 10 F. All my trees are nicely put away, some in my unheated garage, some in a coldframe type struture and some with just some wind break.

Let me give you an example of why the unheated garage is so good for those trees needing a little extra help. The Temps are moderated... when it gets warm out, the garage is slow to heat. But when it gets cold, the garage is slow to get cold. My garage shares a northern wall of the house, and although I hope to keep all the heat in the house, I'm sure some makes it through the foundation. Last night with the temps at 18 F the garage only got down to 30 F. As the winter comes on the garage will slowly drop to about the upper 20's, which has in the past been perfect for my trees. Just a thought for those looking for a place for their trees..... admittedly next year!
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Jay,
Do you do anything to make up for the lack of air circulation. I was wondering if I should keep a fan on low or do you think my drafty windows would do the job?
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I think this is an example of do what I say but not what I do. My garage is active, door is opened several times a day and car in... car out... is happening. This gives a bit of air flow and I have not had any problems in the past. My trees are somewhat seperated and there is air coming in through the (leaky) window. That said, you should have a small fan to move the air. You can get them at a Radio Shack or equal. Small little computer type fan. You do not need to make much air flow, actually if you have large amounts of air you will dry out the trees. You are looking to just have a minimum of air flow, I might even direct the airflow over the top of the trees.
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Thanks Jay,
I think my window may be leaky enough to provide that along with my door opening/closings.
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Is there any way to check for signs of poor health during the winter when your outdoor trees are dormant? What about checking to see if the roots have frozen? Is there any way of doing that?

(haha, Jay, you must think i'm the world's most paranoid bonsai enthusiast)
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Jimmy, you ask, "you must think i'm the world's most paranoid bonsai enthusiast" my answer.... no, just a concerned one. I find that the roots will freeze over the winter. This is not bad for the hardy trees.What is bad is a freeze/thaw/freeze/thaw etc etc type thing. I can only speak of my trees and my wintering arrangement. I havew had no problem or loss in the past. Doesn't mean I will not have loss in the future! Sometimes too much attention is not good. Do the right thing, keep an eye on them regarding mice etc and water when needed and they should be fine.... if they are hardy!
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"if they are hardy!"

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Jimmy, if your trees are outside in zone 4 the rootballs will freeze, that's a given. That's not necessarily a bad thing, depending on the species of tree you're talking about. What happens is that the water/moisture in the soil gets locked up in ice crystals so it's not available to the tree. The tree itself has sugars and enzymes that act as a natural antifreeze. It has it's limits though. If it gets too cold the sap will freeze and the cell walls will rupture, most likely leaving you a dead tree. So it all depends on what kind of trees you are growing and what kind of protection you are giving them.

Not much you can do to check the health in winter. Basically the small limber branches should still be limber in winter. If they are dried out and snap at the slightest bend they are dead. Other than that you'll have to wait til spring and see where it buds, if at all. Protection from strong wind is a must in your zone.

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