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Old 12-Jul-2002   #1
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Willow Trees

Does anyone have any information on making bonsai out of willows---Not Weeping willows, They are the old swamp kind.
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Willow is a very tough plant to make a convincing bonsai from. If you had an interesting trunk you'd collected it might be workth <--(Freudian typo. I like this new word, "workth!") playing around, but those huge, long, compound leaves are murder, and they suck water like there's no tomorrow.

Plus, on the scale of a bonsai it will all grow out as a shrub, so you need to wire the branch base up and wire the end down, then cut back over and over to get some kind of weeping effect going.

If you like the look, you are much better off with a tamarisk (Tamarix). Much smaller foliage.

If you want to pursue the willow thing, you can try a search on willow here. Capt. Jack posted one a week or two ago I think.

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tamarisk

I agree tamarisk Is a very buityful and mystic tree. The problem is where do I get one. Considering my budget I cant buy trees so I have to do with what grows wild around here for now. Thanks for the advice. I think I might chunk the willows. or maybe just learn from them by experimentation. That way I dont have to try new tricks on my Cedar/Junipers.
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Re: tamarisk

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I agree tamarisk Is a very buityful and mystic tree. The problem is where do I get one...


Too bad you're not out this way. They would probably pay you to take them:

http://www.hcn.org/servlets/hcn.URL...Tackling_t.html
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dern

We have the same problem with chicken trees.
Have you seen my post about it?
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Plus, on the scale of a bonsai it will all grow out as a shrub...
isnt this true with most plant prospects?

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so you need to wire the branch base up and wire the end down, then cut back over and over to get some kind of weeping effect going.
Is this the only style suitable for a willow? I am only asking because I have a collected willow. (unknown cultivar, due to the over cross pollinating these trees do) The trunk is not bad, has some movement, etc. It does produce long shrubby growth as you say, but I cut back two to three times a year. I believe with meticulous pruning and shaping, a nice style (other than weeping) may come from it.

Just wondering, with your experience on willows, am I wasting my time, and should I chalk this tree up to a learning experience as Whidn mentioned?
I will post some evolution of this willow sometime today.

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Hi again,
This is the tree I mentioned before. I dont know why I collected it at first. I was out fishing, stopped out an island and this was growing int he cracks. It came right out as I was looking at it's potential so I took it home and potted it up as it seen here, the following spring budding out.
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I realized the rush to get it into a pot was not doing this tree any favors, and putting the growth on slow speed. I potted it up spring of 2001 into this bigger pot. It took off. Another hands on lesson proven worthy. POT BIG or IN GROUND to establish size rapidly. The trunk grew a good inch or two around the base.
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This shows the tree last fall after leaf drop. I cleaned up some branches and pruned back hard this spring, and again, growth was fast, and as Matt said before shrubby. However I still think something can be done with willows other than weeping. I hope at least it can be done.
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and just another with a closer view of the trunk. I am still deciding about removing one or two of the "trunks". I am waiting for some girth, playing with virtuals as I learn the growth habits of this willow. It has some "home show" qualities that I like about it. And perhaps in a few years it will be something.

"home show" is something that I would show off at home and not neccessarily at a judging exhibit. Not that I have anything that is worthy of that either.

I would like some advise on this tree. I am also open to suggestions.

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