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15-Nov-2002
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Paul Berish
 
Join Date: Jun-2002
Location: north shore of Lake Superior
Country: Minnesota
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Thorny....Hawthorne Question #2
Went for a walk today with the wife on our farm. We plan on opening another area of pasture that has grown over by many pines, and wild fruiting shrubs....prunus and crataegus (hawthorne).
I came across the end of a long row of hawthorn hedge that runs from the driveway all the way back about 100 yards or more. I hadnt paid attention much to them, cause they are way too tall, and to get into the middle of them...well you know (see question #1) It snowed a day or so ago, so finding these today was kind of a bummer, I cannot see the ground and roots for the area is frozen with leaves, grass and snow. But I took these following photos to give you an idea of what I am talking about. My question....(even tho they are thorny little buggers.) I have seen some wicked nice Hawthorn bonsai, Would you collect THESE particular trees for bonsai? Me? I am going to first chance I get in spring...WOULD YOU? When I open up the pasture. They are good as dead anyhow. Our sheep and cattle will wittle these down to nothing. Along with about 100 plus pines and seedlings. Ok. Heres the story from just looking at them. Someone chopped these down to the ground for whatever reason. they obviously back budded. They are shown with a twenty ounce bottle cap on one of the chops. The average height is just above my knees, or say 25-30 inches. The bases vary between 3 to 5 inches from what I can tell. They all wanna be uprights....brooms etc, perhaps multi-trunks or even clump I see in one. These are I think five different trees, I will recount and edit when I am done. One pic shows three in close proximity to the others. Two are down field. Hawthorne FAQ Paul
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15-Nov-2002
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It looks like there is the potential material for some nice Hawthorn groves. Material that is slender like this with different trunk sizes is perfect. Collect some as soon as the snow melts and you can grab them in clumps and cut them back to heights in proportion to their girth. Maybe 6-18 inches or so.
Walter Pall had a nice article on collected hornbeams, but it's behind the bonsaienthusiast.com firewall now. So you'd need to subscribe to read it Exciting!
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16-Nov-2002
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Here's an amazing hawthorn time series from our club web page...
http://psba.8m.com/pic/haw/haw.html A really neat set of trees! -OMC
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16-Nov-2002
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Paul Berish
Join Date: Jun-2002
Location: north shore of Lake Superior
Country: Minnesota
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Matt and Carl,
Thanks for the links....figures you guys were thorny. I am a subscriber to Andy's sight so I will look for Walters article. I plan to dig them up anyhow, I hope to get lucky with a few nice bottom.....into grow boxes for some cut down as you have said. Paul
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17-Nov-2002
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I have never found a good Hawthorne to bonsai but have looked. My answer is an emphatic "Yes". We had two of them in our yard at our former house and I loved those trees. They had beautiful branching, great leaf color in the fall, and rough bark.
So go for it. Earl |
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17-Nov-2002
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I would say do it too. You never know what's lerking in those hawthorn patches. I used to have a hawthorn bonsai but I gave up on it and sold it. They're pretty high maintenance. Aphids and rust, primarily. If you like doing apples, you'll love doing haws. Everyone finds their favorites, but you don't know what they are until you grow them.
 I have a large washington hawthorn growing next to the garage and I've got seedlings all over the place.
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