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4-Apr-2005
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Albino Squirrel
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Schefflera not rooting?!
Hi all,
This [part of] plant has been in water for 2 or 3 weeks yet, with rooting hormones... Nothing yet. I want to know if I'm just too impatient or did I do it the wrong way... Should I change water, wait [a lot ?] longer? Would it be better directly in soil? Should I cut it again, (only 1/8 inch) and wait again in water.. ? Well, tell me what I should do please... Thanks, Max
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4-Apr-2005
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I have never been able to root anything in water except spider plants. Everything else rots away. I have enough spider plants now.
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4-Apr-2005
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Albino Squirrel
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So I should air layer the original plant?!?
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4-Apr-2005
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Max,
Wait. About 8 months ago, my cat chewed a large piece of my schefflera and I had to cut it off. Since I was going to throw it away, I decided to try to root it in a glass of water. If it took...good. If it didn't, well I hadn't lost anything. I had already tried to root some in a peat/gravel mix, like I root everyting else, and they just rotted. So I put it into a small glass of water, placed it on a shelf in my dining room, out of direct sunlight, and forgot about it. Two or three weeks later, it was still green, and apparently healthy. However, it still had no roots. Since it was still green, I simply changed out its water and left it alone. Another two or three weeks went by, and I checked it again. It had started to produce "root nodes" and and was still green and healthy. I changed its water and began to check it weekly. About three weeks later, it had a nice root system. Total time to root...about two months. After it had plenty of roots, I added some bonsai soil to the cup. I kept it in the cup, with soaked bonsai soil for another two or three weeks before removing it and planting it into a small nursery pot of bonsai soil. It adapted well, and has prodeced many new leaves since. I currently have about twenty cuttings of various sizes sitting in glasses of water. I pruned my big schef about a week ago and decided to try to root the leftovers. If they take...great. If not, well, nothing lost. The difference is now I know that it is possible and will just wait until they either root or rot. This is just my experience, and I offer no guarantee that you will have similar results. Good luck! Regards, John P.S. I just noticed that you are trying to root a single leaf. This may not work...my successful cutting was a piece of stalk with three leaves on it, as are my current cuttings. But as long as it is not rotting, why toss it? Let it be until it either roots or rots. If it does root, it will grow FAST!
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4-Apr-2005
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Albino Squirrel
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Thanks a lot John! It encourages me a lot... I'll change it's water and let it there.. or maybe remove it from the light... Well, I hope it wont rot! We'll see... If it doesn't rot, it means we can get even more cuttings from the same plant...
 That's good, thank you again!Max
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5-Apr-2005
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No problem. Just keep in mind that a single leaf may not take. I have attached a picture of my successful cutting. When I first put it into water, I cut off all but the three lower leaves, and about 6" of stalk. It now has two other "mature" leaves, and two small leaflets at the very top that are just sprouting. The "trunk" has grown taller by about one inch since I potted it, but it is the same diameter. This cutting will probably not be a bonsai. It was a last minute trial that ended in success, and its trunk doesn't really do much for me. I tend to like multiple straight trunks with lots of aerial roots on these trees (banyan style). Of course, I may change my mind in a few years, but for now I am content to just let it grow however it wants. Regards, John
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5-Apr-2005
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Albino Squirrel
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It looks in very good health!
Maybe someday it will look good to make a bonsai, who knows... It is still a nice plant anyway!Well... I know it was risky to only use a little group of leaves to root from... but I don't think my girlfriend's mother will enjoy me cutting away the half plant! :p In reality, her plant is big enough... I will just wait some more weeks and if it does nothing, I'll ask her for having a bigger branch. Max
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5-Apr-2005
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leaf cutting
The leaf you are trying to root may root in time but will never grow because it has no real trunk to grow knew leaves from.
I rooted a leaf and it was merely a "rooted leaf" that eventually died when the leaf petals became old. You really need to use a stem of the trunk or a branch to root and grow properly. I do all my cuttings in bonsai soil that is kept moist in reflected light only, no direct sun. To grow arial roots "banyan style" use some plastic mesh that is used to cover the drain holes in your pots and build a fence around the trunk at least an inch away from it on all sides. Fill the space with bonsai soil and keep moist. In about 2 to 4 months arial roots will grow from the trunk and into the main soil. After the fence and soil are removed be sure the new roots are directed into the soil. They will eventually become woody and look like the trunk of the tree. Good luck. Quote:
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5-Apr-2005
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Albino Squirrel
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Okay, maybe I'll ask her sooner
 Thanks for your experiences Repotter! BTW I like you technique for making aerial roots, thanks. But what are you calling bonsai soil?! They don't sell bonsai soil here, I'm just using tropical plants soil... should I mix it with something else, or is it okay?!? Max
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5-Apr-2005
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Archbonsaist in training
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Max,
Bonsai soil is a mixture of coarse particles, usually composed of a combination of one or more of these: hard-fired clay, lava rock, fir or pine bark, akadama, and some other ingredients. This type of "soil" drains very quickly and allows a tree to grow healthily in a pot. Schefflera do not necessarily need bonsai soil to survive, since they tend to like moist soil. As a matter of fact, the "parent" plant that my first cutting came from is planted in regular potting soil, and has been in the same pot for several years. The main drawback to regular potting soil is the fact that it doesn't drain very well. I only water the parent plant about once every two weeks or so. The rooted cutting, which is planted in bonsai soil, gets watered every day. To learn more about bonsai soil, you can begin by reading the posts in the "Soils, Fertilizer, and Repotting" forum here on Bonsaitalk. A search through google will return many results, as well. You will find that there are almost as many opinions about what makes a good bonsai soil as there are people growing bonsai. Once you learn what your trees need and like, you can begin experimenting to determine what works best for you. Hope this helps a little more... Regards, John
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