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bonsaiTALK Craftsman
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I love jades! I'm currently growing about 6 different varients. However, I don't grow them as bonsai; I grow them as jades.
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bonsaiTALK Master Craftsman
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The jades out here are flowering now. I love the jade, have 3 that are in the bonsai form. They grow like weeds and I am ALWAYS trimming but love it.
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bonsaiTALK Master
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My jade is very large, I can trace it back 20 years as a house plant. The only reason i am considering using it is because of its size. The smaller leave variety can make nice bonsai if done correctly. I hope ,with help ,mine will become a quality tree. Good luck with your project. Rich
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NCSU Horticulture
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Jade Bonsai- an acquired taste?
Hi all,
Here's a nice example of a specimen Crassula. While it may not be bonsai, I would definitely love to have a quality jade specimen plant. If you still think fans of jade (not as bonsai) are tasteless, just check out this cultivar (pictured below): Crassula ovata 'hummel's sunset' I have acquired about ten cuttings of this extremely sought after cultivar. When they get a bit bigger, I would be happy to send out some cuttings for the rest of you "tastless" bonsai fans who would like to have a nice "non-bonsai" specimen to shake up your collections. All the best, JDL |
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Non-bonsai? When did they become non-bonsai? Is it a plant? Is it growing in a tray? Does it resemble a tree?
There are many nice Jade Bonsai as well as some nice examples of other succulents. Will Heath |
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NCSU Horticulture
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Believe me Will, I would love for my little cuttings to grow up to have a nice bonsai shape. I should have clarified that I was only agreeing with Old Mister Crow that jades don't fulfill the requirement for "traditional" bonsai. I got nailed on this point on another thread a few weeks back. Maybe a better way to say it is that, personally, I can't lump jades or some other tropicals for that matter in with the 1,000 year old black pine sitting in some small village in Japan. My brain just doesn't work that way; there has to be some separation there. Okay, jades can be bonsai. Almost anything can. But there's just some ancient connection made when viewing traditional bonsai material that I can't get from tropicals. The truly old bonsai make me feel like I'm part of a long history that is greater than any one artist; like I'm standing in the presence of something tested by nature, tested by many seasons past, a testiment to life itself. This is the best way I can put it into words why I separate these two forms of bonsai in my mind. Of course I always reserve the right to be utterly wrong.
All the best, JDL |
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NCSU Horticulture
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What does everybody else think? Can jade bonsai "compete" with traditional material? I love my jades, but for their natural form (which sometime comes pretty close to a bonsai style). Keep 'em coming, folks.
All the best, JDL |
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bonsaiTALK Master Chief
Join Date: Aug-2004
Location: Aberystwyth Uni
Country: Wales
USDA Zone: 8
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I'm going to have to borrow my dads digital cameral and take a picture of my newly aquried small leaved carassula and blow you guys out of the water! it's about 2' tall and the trunk is mighty thick, i can just about get both hands around it. It has amazing branches that are very tree like and plenty of foliage on top. It is a bit leggy in places, but i'm going to try and solve that this year. It is rather tree like, and i love it to pieces.
Alasdair
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I can feel another "I wish that was my tree" moment coming on... Currently studying BSc Plant Biology at the Universty of Wales, Aberystwyth |
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I think that if the Japanese would have access to some of our tropicals, this question would be mute. However, we can use some other examples such as European Larch or American Larch of which the Japanese traditionally didn't use either. Using the traditionalist argument, Larches then would not be considered bonsai?
My nieces love them. This one is starting to fill out nicely, more pics soon. Will Last edited by Will_Heath : 22-Feb-2005 at 09:25 AM. |
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NCSU Horticulture
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Great posts all around. Good points about the larches Will. I will have to put up a photo this week of a jade we have over here in the NC State greenhouse. It is the first thing I see every day when I walk into the arboretum, and it is kind of becoming an old friend (a bit corny I know). From the older professors I've talked to, they estimate it to be about 50 years old. It's natural shape is gorgeous and it's trunk is massive. I wouldn't change a thing. Keep watching....
JDL |
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